Who could pssibly beat Spectre...

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Originally posted by Galan777
Beyonder never layed a finger on LT or any cosmic being except the celestials

We only see LT when the multiverse is in danger, Classic Beyonder was threating the Multiverse, all the abtracts including LT was there trying to reason with the Beyonder to no avail..The Beyonder dident fight the abstracts because he dident reguard LT and the other abstracts as a threat to him.
thats wat i meant when Lt got b*tched by the beyonder.

Originally posted by Priest
We only see LT when the multiverse is in danger, Classic Beyonder was threating the Multiverse, all the abtracts including LT was there trying to reason with the Beyonder to no avail..The Beyonder dident fight the abstracts because he dident reguard LT and the other abstracts as a threat to him.
thats wat i meant when Lt got b*tched by the beyonder.
Or did LT choose to not fight because he knew that Molecule Man would beat the Beyonder in the end? I mean LT is omniscent afterall....

The world may never know 😉

Originally posted by Galan777
Or did LT choose to not fight because he knew that Molecule Man would beat the Beyonder in the end? I mean LT is omniscent afterall....

The world may never know 😉


indeed
but still very suspect on LT part if true.
But we cant assume LT knew wat was going to happen in the end.

Originally posted by Priest
indeed
but still very suspect on LT part if true.
But we cant assume LT knew wat was going to happen in the end.
With omniscents (knowledge of all that has, does, or will ever exist) you would think LT should have known that MM would eventually beat the Beyonder, but thats just my oppinion...

Originally posted by Galan777
With omniscents (knowledge of all that has, does, or will ever exist) you would think LT should have known that MM would eventually beat the Beyonder, but thats just my oppinion...

I like ur thinking..
BUT why did LT even bother to fight Thanos with HOTU if he knew that he wouldent win?
I know LT is omniscent, but if he trully knew wat the out come of the future is gonna be, he wouldent have lost the way he did.

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Originally posted by Juntai
I'm not sure Vertigo actually has a canon, seems to be just random adult themed stories.

But the series was still a masterpiece !

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Originally posted by Lord Urizen
But the series was still a masterpiece !
True enough.

Originally posted by Priest
Id say on average showings the Living Tribunal should be able to take down spectre, he can effortly put down the IG when Adam had control of it, that power there.

Classic Beyonder without a dout can take on spectre, he made LT and the rest of the marvel cosmic his ***** on pannel.

Thanos with HOTU would take down spectre, unless spectre was backed up by the presence 100% it would be a stailmate.


HOTU would still win. The presence cannot give Spectre ALL of it's power, it must leave some remaining.

Spectre backed by God is unbeatable 😐

The only one who could beat him would be God, no one else would stand a chance

LU I can't beleive you forgot The Cosmic Mother.

Originally posted by Priest
I like ur thinking..
BUT why did LT even bother to fight Thanos with HOTU if he knew that he wouldent win?
I know LT is omniscent, but if he trully knew wat the out come of the future is gonna be, he wouldent have lost the way he did.
See there again, you could argue that since LT is omniscent, he would have known that eventually Thanos would restore everything to how it was, and it would no longer matter if he "lost" when he did because it wouldn't last indefinatley....

This is all just my oppinion though, but if LT is truly omniscent then I think it makes perfect sense

Originally posted by Galan777
See there again, you could argue that since LT is omniscent, he would have known that eventually Thanos would restore everything to how it was, and it would no longer matter if he "lost" when he did because it wouldn't last indefinatley....

This is all just my oppinion though, but if LT is truly omniscent then I think it makes perfect sense


Maybe he figured "I'll probably lose, and Thanos will just restore everything, so no loss. On the other hand, I could actualy win, and save everyone a whole bunch of trouble".

Originally posted by King Kandy
Maybe he figured "I'll probably lose, and Thanos will just restore everything, so no loss.
Thats basically what I'm saying...

Originally posted by King Kandy
On the other hand, I could actualy win, and save everyone a whole bunch of trouble".
Well you have to think of LT as though he is truly omniscent, so if thats true, then LT would have never thought he might win because he would have known what would happen to him once he started fighting Thanos....

But we will probably never know 😉

IMO:

LT
Thanos w/ HOTU
TOAA
PR Beyonder
...Mufassa.

Originally posted by MightyEInherjar
IMO:

LT
Thanos w/ HOTU
TOAA
PR Beyonder

Nah its more like:

TOAA
Thanos /w/ THOTU
PR Beyonder
LT

Originally posted by Galan777
Thats basically what I'm saying...

Well you have to think of LT as though he is truly omniscent, so if thats true, then LT would have never thought he might win because he would have known what would happen to him once he started fighting Thanos....

But we will probably never know 😉


That's not how omnescience works. He saw all the possible outcomes, and saw that he had a 99.99999% chance of losing, and beings restored, and a slight but nonzero chance of winning. So, the worst thing that could happen was that he would be restored. So, he figured, why not take a chance?

Originally posted by King Kandy
That's not how omnescience works. He saw all the possible outcomes, and saw that he had a 99.99999% chance of losing, and beings restored, and a slight but nonzero chance of winning. So, the worst thing that could happen was that he would be restored. So, he figured, why not take a chance?
The definition of Omniscent straight from webster is:
"having infinite knowledge, knowing all things"

so LT would have absolutley known what would happen to him when he confronted Thanos, and he also would have known that everything would eventually be restored to how it was in the end.

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Originally posted by Lord Urizen
But the series was still a masterpiece !

Originally posted by Galan777
Nah its more like:

TOAA
Thanos /w/ THOTU
PR Beyonder
LT


With intelligence Beyonder would be with TOAA and the Presence ...

´You see, all of the other living things here are content pursuing the satisfaction of their desires -- But even the mightiest beings among them are like microbes to me! I've got a unique situaton -- I' Omnipotent!´
´The trouble with being omnipotent is that reality isn't real to me! Everything is what I say it is! If I decide that granite is squeezably soft it is! If I decide that cows have wings, they do.
To put it in an other way, cows do not have wings because I don't want them to.´
´My imagination and reality are virtually indistiguishable! All exisatnce exept me, might as well be a pigment of my imagination.
Maybe it is! I might have dreamed all this up including wing-less cows! But then, the whole point is that it makes no differance!´

Beyonder's imagination was reality ...

´Sure! No force in existance could possibly destroy me without my consent, so you'd have me voluntary allow myself to have some vulnerability ...
Why so you could kill me
´

The only thing that can damage Beyonder is himself, his imagination ... His powers.

And he created an infinity universe like the Presence.

... Can't claim he was smart though ...

Originally posted by Galan777
The definition of Omniscent straight from webster is:
[b]"having infinite knowledge, knowing all things"

so LT would have absolutley known what would happen to him when he confronted Thanos, and he also would have known that everything would eventually be restored to how it was in the end. [/B]


This can't have happened. The future in Marvel isn't laid out like that. If only one thing could happen, then there would be no "Alternate universes."