Who could pssibly beat Spectre...

Started by Fanboy5 pages

Nothing.

Originally posted by Fanboy
Nothing.

Plenty of things.

Galactus can do it!
😖hifty:

Originally posted by Juntai
Galactus can do it!
😖hifty:

Did you catch a cold with fever or something??? 😕

Originally posted by Rewmac
Did you catch a cold with fever or something??? 😕
lol. Just poking fun.

I know...But you should know it best, that Wolverine could beat him...

Originally posted by King Kandy
This can't have happened. The future in Marvel isn't laid out like that. If only one thing could happen, then there would be no "Alternate universes."
alternate universes are simply those outside the 616 universe, why is it so hard to believe that only 1 event could or would have happened in 1 singular universe?

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
With intelligence Beyonder would be with TOAA and the Presence ...

´You see, all of the other living things here are content pursuing the satisfaction of their desires -- But even the mightiest beings among them are like microbes to me! I've got a unique situaton -- I' Omnipotent!´
´The trouble with being omnipotent is that reality isn't real to me! Everything is what I say it is! If I decide that granite is squeezably soft it is! If I decide that cows have wings, they do.
To put it in an other way, cows do not have wings because I don't want them to.´
´My imagination and reality are virtually indistiguishable! All exisatnce exept me, might as well be a pigment of my imagination.
Maybe it is! I might have dreamed all this up including wing-less cows! But then, the whole point is that it makes no differance!´

Beyonder's imagination was reality ...

´[B]Sure! No force in existance could possibly destroy me without my consent, so you'd have me voluntary allow myself to have some vulnerability ...
Why so you could kill me
´

The only thing that can damage Beyonder is himself, his imagination ... His powers.

And he created an infinity universe like the Presence.

... Can't claim he was smart though ... [/B]

All this referes to Beyonder being Omnipotent (which he may have been) But so is TOAA

But Beyonder is NOT Omniscent as God/TOAA is, hence Beyonder is NOT as powerful, period...

Aegis and Tenebrous 😐

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Aegis and Tenebrous 😐
🤨

Originally posted by Galan777
All this referes to Beyonder being Omnipotent (which he may have been) But so is TOAA

But Beyonder is NOT Omniscent as God/TOAA is, hence Beyonder is NOT as powerful, period...


How to put this ... Beyonder was like Thanos w/ Heart ... Had the power but not the knowledge ... At least not in Marvel Multi-verse.

In his realm (which was infinity times bigger than the Marvel-Multiverse) : His Omniverse, he was omniseint as well.

So basicly he's the OAA in the PR beyond-realm.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
How to put this ... Beyonder was like Thanos w/ Heart ... Had the power but not the knowledge ... At least not in Marvel Multi-verse.
Correct, this is why
TOAA>Beyonder

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
In his realm (which was infinity times bigger than the Marvel-Multiverse)
Where is that stated?

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
His Omniverse, he was omniseint as well.
He didn't have an omniverse, just a universe.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
So basicly he's the OAA in the PR beyond-realm.
There is only 1 TOAA, and Beyonder isn't it...

Correct, this is why
TOAA>Beyonder

Hmm ... Wouldent say that.
In terms of intelligence in Marvel Multi-verse ... Yes.

Where is that stated?

Secret War's ... He said that he understood everything before entering the Marvel Multi-verse.

He didn't have an omniverse, just a universe.

True indeed, but it had the size of the Omniverse.
Think about it.
Beyonder created a universe, which was infinity times bigger than the Multi-verse with his powers ... And since he is the sum of the Beyond, he have it's powers, and it was enough to create something infinity times the Multi-verse.
Beyond = infinity Multi-verses (in size)

There is only 1 TOAA, and Beyonder isn't it...

The creator (Avatar of the writer) would kick Beyonder's ass in the Marvel Omniverse.
In the Beyond realm "logicaly" Beyonder would win.

Originally posted by Juntai
Galactus can do it!
😖hifty:

No, no, nooo...Wolverine can do it all alone! He has Adamentium claws. 😛

Some member *cough OneDumbGo cough*
thinks that Galactus can beat Spectre

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Hmm ... Wouldent say that.
In terms of intelligence in Marvel Multi-verse ... Yes.
TOAA is greater in every way period, I know u like the Beyonder........ but seriously 🤨

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Secret War's ... He said that he understood everything before entering the Marvel Multi-verse.
Yeah well in SW II he didn't know what was going on half the time, hence he is not omniscent, and is not as powerful as TOAA.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
True indeed, but it had the size of the Omniverse.
Think about it.
Beyonder created a universe, which was [B]infinity
times bigger than the Multi-verse with his powers ... And since he is the sum of the Beyond, he have it's powers, and it was enough to create something infinity times the Multi-verse.
Beyond = infinity Multi-verses (in size)[/B]
Nope, Beyonder created a universe that met no resistance in the infinite Beyond realm, never once does it say that his universe was larger then the multiverse, let alone the omniverse.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
The creator (Avatar of the writer) would kick Beyonder's ass in the Marvel Omniverse.
In the Beyond realm "logicaly" Beyonder would win.
Nope, because "logically" the writer is the one that invented the Beyond realm, hence the Beyonder looses there as well.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
With intelligence Beyonder would be with TOAA and the Presence ...

´You see, all of the other living things here are content pursuing the satisfaction of their desires -- But even the mightiest beings among them are like microbes to me! I've got a unique situaton -- I' Omnipotent!´
´The trouble with being omnipotent is that reality isn't real to me! Everything is what I say it is! If I decide that granite is squeezably soft it is! If I decide that cows have wings, they do.
To put it in an other way, cows do not have wings because I don't want them to.´
´My imagination and reality are virtually indistiguishable! All exisatnce exept me, might as well be a pigment of my imagination.
Maybe it is! I might have dreamed all this up including wing-less cows! But then, the whole point is that it makes no differance!´

Well, see here lies the problem. It seems to me from that link that Beyonder has more of an Ego power than Omnipotent power. This line says it best:

"But even the mightiest beings among them are like microbes to me"

Rather arrogant statement for a very powerful being, don't ya think?

Originally posted by Galan777
alternate universes are simply those outside the 616 universe, why is it so hard to believe that only 1 event could or would have happened in 1 singular universe?

When events diverge, you get alternate timelines. that's becuase there's more then one possible way of things turning out.

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
Rather arrogant statement for a very powerful being, don't ya think?

Yet entierely factualy accurat.

Originally posted by King Kandy
When events diverge, you get alternate timelines. that's becuase there's more then one possible way of things turning out.
And you know that there was more then 1 possible outcome of that event how? All that was shown on pannel was 1 outcome, hence LT most certainly would have know what would have happened......

And even if there was more then 1 outcome, LT is friggin omniscent. An omniscent being knows EVERYTHING that has, does, or will ever happen. LT would have known the outcome of THOTU's actions any way you look at it.