Originally posted by JediMasterLuke5was that even a coherent thought?
Have you ever seen the matrix? You know the part where Neo gets shot and comes back to life and then Smith tries to fight him but Neo blocks every thrown punch at him with relative ease. Thats exactly what would happen if Batman was to fight Spiderman. Spiderman wouldnt even land a hit becuz the far superior fighting skills that Batman has. Batman makes quick work of spidey.
Come on people does intelligence and being "walking prep," count for nothing?
Cap. America hit Spider-man three times when Spider-man could only hit him once. Are you saying that Bats couldn't do the same? Spider-man is not trained, he would swing wildly (from bats prospective), While Bats knows exactly where to strike. Spider-man only needs to miss one hit and Bats brakes his arm. Bats has dodged hits from metas and once from the Flash, lets get serious.
Bats just needs maybe a minute to figure out how to take someone down, he has more than enough toys to stall the fight at least that long. I'll admit it would be much tougher against Iron Spidy, but I'm speaking traditional Spider-man.
I'll say it again Bats 7/10.
Originally posted by JediMasterLuke5
Have you ever seen the matrix? You know the part where Neo gets shot and comes back to life and then Smith tries to fight him but Neo blocks every thrown punch at him with relative ease. Thats exactly what would happen if Batman was to fight Spiderman. Spiderman wouldnt even land a hit becuz the far superior fighting skills that Batman has. Batman makes quick work of spidey.
You're right, but you have it backwards.
That's pretty much what Spiderman could do to Batman. Batman's skill is irrelevant. Spiderman really is just DOZENS of times faster than Batman is. Combined with effective precognition, Batman will be lucky if he lasts more than three seconds against a bloodlusted spiderman.
Originally posted by db_renjii wouldnt put bats in the "walking prep" department something like that is reserved for doom, and not saying bats cant beat spidy either but he certainly is not going to break his arm not strong enough to do that even with a pressure hold or joint manipulation... this fight would be good damn good and i'm sure spidy would say something to the effect of "rather be fighting 10 kraven the hunters than fight this guy again" but bats wouldnt own this fight by anymeans spidy's resourcefulness and quick thinking acts as a nice counterbalance for batman's tactics it should be 50/50 most of the way
Come on people does intelligence and being "walking prep," count for nothing?Cap. America hit Spider-man three times when Spider-man could only hit him once. Are you saying that Bats couldn't do the same? Spider-man is not trained, he would swing wildly (from bats prospective), While Bats knows exactly where to strike. Spider-man only needs to miss one hit and Bats brakes his arm. Bats has dodged hits from metas and once from the Flash, lets get serious.
Bats just needs maybe a minute to figure out how to take someone down, he has more than enough toys to stall the fight at least that long. I'll admit it would be much tougher against Iron Spidy, but I'm speaking traditional Spider-man.
I'll say it again Bats 7/10.
Originally posted by lando005
i wouldnt put bats in the "walking prep" department something like that is reserved for doom, and not saying bats cant beat spidy either but he certainly is not going to break his arm not strong enough to do that even with a pressure hold or joint manipulation... this fight would be good damn good and i'm sure spidy would say something to the effect of "rather be fighting 10 kraven the hunters than fight this guy again" but bats wouldnt own this fight by anymeans spidy's resourcefulness and quick thinking acts as a nice counterbalance for batman's tactics it should be 50/50 most of the way
I guess i can concede to a 50/50. However how is he not walking prep? Think about it, on the fly he beat Amazo (although he did have help via Nightwing). He has beaten (although not totally) Superman. He can think of plans and tatics on the fly. How is he not walking prep?
But as a true comic fan, i have to respect the rest of the post. I admit its 50/50.
Originally posted by JediMasterLuke5
Have you ever seen the matrix? You know the part where Neo gets shot and comes back to life and then Smith tries to fight him but Neo blocks every thrown punch at him with relative ease. Thats exactly what would happen if Batman was to fight Spiderman. Spiderman wouldnt even land a hit becuz the far superior fighting skills that Batman has. Batman makes quick work of spidey.
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Originally posted by Soljer
You're right, but you have it backwards.That's pretty much what Spiderman could do to Batman. Batman's skill is irrelevant. Spiderman really is just DOZENS of times faster than Batman is. Combined with effective precognition, Batman will be lucky if he lasts more than three seconds against a bloodlusted spiderman.
And that's the truth.
Originally posted by db_renjithat's more resourcefulness in my eyes knowing ur opponent and useing your enviroment and what you have on had to beat them... walking prep is someone like doom who pretty much has any device he needs to beat the living crap outta any hero/villian on him at all times or atleast a good portion of them kinda like being a walking lab
I guess i can concede to a 50/50. However how is he not walking prep? Think about it, on the fly he beat Amazo (although he did have help via Nightwing). He has beaten (although not totally) Superman. He can think of plans and tatics on the fly. How is he not walking prep?But as a true comic fan, i have to respect the rest of the post. I admit its 50/50.
Originally posted by db_renjiLet's. Batman dodging flash is sheer stupidity & "metas" don't mean much unless they were moving as fast as Spidey can. (If he dodged, they weren't)
Come on people does intelligence and being "walking prep," count for nothing?Cap. America hit Spider-man three times when Spider-man could only hit him once. Are you saying that Bats couldn't do the same? Spider-man is not trained, he would swing wildly (from bats prospective), While Bats knows exactly where to strike. Spider-man only needs to miss one hit and Bats brakes his arm. Bats has dodged hits from metas and once from the Flash, lets get serious.
Originally posted by db_renjiThat Amazo was a stripped down model. He didn't display a millionth of what Amazo can really do. That fight was made to create and please fanboys. He has fought against Amazo & Supes before. No need for walking prep. & Supes is a jobber when it comes to Batman
I guess i can concede to a 50/50. However how is he not walking prep? Think about it, on the fly he beat Amazo (although he did have help via Nightwing). He has beaten (although not totally) Superman. He can think of plans and tatics on the fly. How is he not walking prep?But as a true comic fan, i have to respect the rest of the post. I admit its 50/50.
Originally posted by db_renjiWhile I do think Batman would give a better fight than most people, the only problem with your theory is, is that Cap nails Spidey three times to one nick because Cap knows everything about Spiderman, literally. He's studied his moves and powers totally which is why he did what he did even though he's physically outclassed. Batman hasn't.
Come on people does intelligence and being "walking prep," count for nothing?Cap. America hit Spider-man three times when Spider-man could only hit him once. Are you saying that Bats couldn't do the same? Spider-man is not trained, he would swing wildly (from bats prospective), While Bats knows exactly where to strike. Spider-man only needs to miss one hit and Bats brakes his arm. Bats has dodged hits from metas and once from the Flash, lets get serious.
Bats just needs maybe a minute to figure out how to take someone down, he has more than enough toys to stall the fight at least that long. I'll admit it would be much tougher against Iron Spidy, but I'm speaking traditional Spider-man.
I'll say it again Bats 7/10.
I do agree that Batman can take the measure of his opponent in a very short time. I mean, that's basically his role in the JLA, but can he do to Spidey what Cap did? No, I don't think he can. Also a lot of Batman's options are cut down since Iron Man made the suit with several defenses. It's got a mask filter for gases (always a favorite option of Bats), heat-resistant kevlar and audio and visual amplification in case Batman wants to go sneaking.
Batman would have to analyze all that and turn the suit against Spidey somehow. If anything, Batman's resourceful and would go straight to bat-gadgets. He does it all the time. He'd probably try to short-circuit Spidey's suit so the suit's vision/ legs go crazy. Or try to hide, make Spidey go to visual/audio amplication and use a flashbang/sonic emitter to overwhelm Spidey's senses. He's a bastard like that and does that stuff all the time, hell he did both to Superman in the 'Hush' fight (turning a strength into a vulnerability). Honestly, now that I think about it, his Iron Spidey outfit could actually make Spidey more vulnerable to a resourceful opponent like Batman.
Spidey still 6/10
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
While I do think Batman would give a better fight than most people, the only problem with your theory is, is that Cap nails Spidey three times to one nick because Cap knows everything about Spiderman, literally. He's studied his moves and powers totally which is why he did what he did even though he's physically outclassed. Batman hasn't.I do agree that Batman can take the measure of his opponent in a very short time. I mean, that's basically his role in the JLA, but can he do to Spidey what Cap did? No, I don't think he can. Also a lot of Batman's options are cut down since Iron Man made the suit with several defenses. It's got a mask filter for gases (always a favorite option of Bats), heat-resistant kevlar and audio and visual amplification in case Batman wants to go sneaking.
Batman would have to analyze all that and turn the suit against Spidey somehow. If anything, Batman's resourceful and would go straight to bat-gadgets. He does it all the time. He'd probably try to short-circuit Spidey's suit so the suit's vision/ legs go crazy. Or try to hide, make Spidey go to visual/audio amplication and use a flashbang/sonic emitter to overwhelm Spidey's senses. He's a bastard like that and does that stuff all the time, hell he did both to Superman in the 'Hush' fight (turning a strength into a vulnerability). Honestly, now that I think about it, his Iron Spidey outfit could actually make Spidey more vulnerable to a resourceful opponent like Batman.
Spidey still 6/10
I very much doubt that Stark would so easily allow an Iron-man (even Pete's Iron Spidey) suit to be so easily short circuited.
Not to mention, Spiderman doesn't need a/v amplification - his Spider Sense can paint a 360 degree picture of his surroundings. Batman isn't hiding from it.
Furthermore, even if Batman DID manage to FUBAR the Iron Spidey Suit, Spiderman could likely rip the iron/kevlar/whatever the hell it is in two, jump out in his classic costume, and STILL punch Bruce's head off.
BUT, this is all assuming that Spiderman doesn't just Speedblitz the hell out of this HUMAN as soon as the flag is dropped....
EDIT: Not to mention the invisibility mode of the Suit....
I have an hour between classes so I came here 💃 . With all the equipment in Batman's belt, do you guys think that Batman will get direct hits in the first shot? No way in hell. Spiderman goe sto fight Batman and Bats trhows something out his belt at Spidey. Of course, Spiderman dodges it (Spider sense is there too) and Spidey webs Batmans belt since he saw something dangerous coming out of it 😈
Or Spiderman webs his whole body up 😐 Anyway, Spiderman will catch some part of Bats body with web after he dodges one of his attacks. Spiderman wins 8/10 in a fight without batman doing his H.W.
Originally posted by Ricodrayz
I have an hour between classes so I came here 💃 . With all the equipment in Batman's belt, do you guys think that Batman will get direct hits in the first shot? No way in hell. Spiderman goe sto fight Batman and Bats trhows something out his belt at Spidey. Of course, Spiderman dodges it (Spider sense is there too) and Spidey webs Batmans belt since he saw something dangerous coming out of it 😈Or Spiderman webs his whole body up 😐 Anyway, Spiderman will catch some part of Bats body with web after he dodges one of his attacks. Spiderman wins 8/10 in a fight without batman doing his H.W.
Or he could not worry about the gasses that Batman will throw, catch the batarangs mid-flight and chunk them back at Bruce, and....
Punch his spine out of alignment.
And by out of alignment, I mean across two state lines.
Originally posted by brainchild81Well, that's freaking hilarious. I feel sorry for Bats but it's all true 😆
That's from the 2nd Spidey/Bat crossover. This time they take on Fisk & Ras. 1st time they fought Carnage & Joker. Spidey also could have easily punched a hole in Bats's face, but he was nice and easily tossed him away instead.
Originally posted by db_renji
Come on people does intelligence and being "walking prep," count for nothing?Cap. America hit Spider-man three times when Spider-man could only hit him once. Are you saying that Bats couldn't do the same? Spider-man is not trained, he would swing wildly (from bats prospective), While Bats knows exactly where to strike. Spider-man only needs to miss one hit and Bats brakes his arm. Bats has dodged hits from metas and once from the Flash, lets get serious.
Bats just needs maybe a minute to figure out how to take someone down, he has more than enough toys to stall the fight at least that long. I'll admit it would be much tougher against Iron Spidy, but I'm speaking traditional Spider-man.
I'll say it again Bats 7/10.