The crucifixion/passion of Christ

Has it been played out thousands of time already throughout the universe? Will it not continue to do so too?

If for instance, on a remote planet across the galaxy where Christ also lived, but looked like (oh, I don't know, let's say) a giraffe, because all the inhabitants of intelligent life on this particular planet looked like giraffes, wouldn't he have been crucified there also? Has this scene not taken place already on thousands of planets across the universe? Get my drift?

If God in his splendor, put this whole time machine known as the universe in motion, with limitless possibilities for intelligent life; and as such allows for limitless possibilties for different physical features of intelligent life elsewhere, wouldn't He also have sent Christ (in some physically different, relative form) to spread His message on these life sustaining planets also?

Originally posted by BobbyD
Has it been played out thousands of time already throughout the universe? Will it not continue to do so too?

If for instance, on a remote planet across the galaxy where Christ also lived, but looked like (oh, I don't know, let's say) a giraffe, because all the inhabitants of intelligent life on this particular planet looked like giraffes, wouldn't he have been crucified there also? Has this scene not taken place already on thousands of planets across the universe? Get my drift?

If God in his splendor, put this whole time machine known as the universe in motion, with limitless possibilities for intelligent life; and as such allows for limitless possibilties for different physical features of intelligent life elsewhere, wouldn't He also have sent Christ (in some physically different, relative form) to spread His message on these life sustaining planets also?

No, you are assuming that the passion is true. Sure Jesus died 2000 years ago, but a lot of people die all the time. Jesus was human and no more divine then any of us.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
No, you are assuming that the passion is true. Sure Jesus died 2000 years ago, but a lot of people die all the time. Jesus was human and no more divine then any of us.

Well, you are certainly entitled to your opinion, Shaky. ...mean this nicely too. As a Christian, naturally you and I will have to agree to disagree. 😉

Originally posted by BobbyD
Has it been played out thousands of time already throughout the universe? Will it not continue to do so too?

If for instance, on a remote planet across the galaxy where Christ also lived, but looked like (oh, I don't know, let's say) a giraffe, because all the inhabitants of intelligent life on this particular planet looked like giraffes, wouldn't he have been crucified there also? Has this scene not taken place already on thousands of planets across the universe? Get my drift?

If God in his splendor, put this whole time machine known as the universe in motion, with limitless possibilities for intelligent life; and as such allows for limitless possibilties for different physical features of intelligent life elsewhere, wouldn't He also have sent Christ (in some physically different, relative form) to spread His message on these life sustaining planets also?

Yeah, he would. So lets see, once we discover alien life we can ask them if they have some jesus dude....and draw our conclusions from there. Although the idea is still ridiculous.

Originally posted by BobbyD
Well, you are certainly entitled to your opinion, Shaky. ...mean this nicely too. As a Christian, naturally you and I will have to agree to disagree. 😉

Thank you. 😄

Originally posted by Bardock42
Yeah, he would. So lets see, once we discover alien life we can ask them if they have some jesus dude....and draw our conclusions from there. Although the idea is still ridiculous.

Indeed.....admit it's a bit "out there". ...but throwing it out nonetheless. ...makes for interesting conversation/debate, yes?

Originally posted by BobbyD
Indeed.....admit it's a bit "out there". ...but throwing it out nonetheless. ...makes for interesting conversation/debate, yes?

No. It is a decent idea. It just doesn't give much to debate on. Well. maaybe once JIA enters claiming that a) there ca't be aliens and b) if there were aliens they are inferiour like homosexuals and cannot be saved and God wouldn't like them at all anyways, cause God only likes JIA and who JIA likes.

Originally posted by BobbyD
Has it been played out thousands of time already throughout the universe? Will it not continue to do so too?

If for instance, on a remote planet across the galaxy where Christ also lived, but looked like (oh, I don't know, let's say) a giraffe, because all the inhabitants of intelligent life on this particular planet looked like giraffes, wouldn't he have been crucified there also? Has this scene not taken place already on thousands of planets across the universe? Get my drift?

If God in his splendor, put this whole time machine known as the universe in motion, with limitless possibilities for intelligent life; and as such allows for limitless possibilties for different physical features of intelligent life elsewhere, wouldn't He also have sent Christ (in some physically different, relative form) to spread His message on these life sustaining planets also?

It all depends on what type of "God" you believe in. As a Christian, I accept the biblical account of creation, so of course -- assuming that I accept this account as factual, it would mean that I believe that God has not created any other form of life in this universe -- since he did not mention himself as creating any such life within the bible.

Originally posted by usagi_yojimbo
It all depends on what type of "God" you believe in. As a Christian, I accept the biblical account of creation, so of course -- assuming that I accept this account as factual, it would mean that I believe that God has not created any other form of life in this universe -- since he did not mention himself as creating any such life within the bible.

Hmmm....okay.

However, what comes to mind when you think of dinosaurs?

Originally posted by BobbyD
Hmmm....okay.

However, what comes to mind when you think of dinosaurs?

He didn't answer you question. 😱

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
He didn't answer you question. 😱

I didn't mean to corner him. My question was merely intended to open his mind, and let him see that the "Good Book" is not meant to be taken literally ALL THE TIME. Sometimes its interpretation is meant to be metaphorical/allegorical.

Originally posted by BobbyD
I didn't mean to corner him. My question was merely intended to open his mind, and let him see that the "Good Book" is not meant to be taken literally ALL THE TIME. Sometimes its interpretation is meant to be metaphorical/allegorical.

Opening people’s minds is like brain surgery, you need an anesthesia.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Opening people’s minds is like brain surgery, you need an anesthesia.

Mmmm...anesthesia. 😖leep:

Originally posted by BobbyD
Hmmm....okay.

However, what comes to mind when you think of dinosaurs?

What about them? There is no conflict with dinosaurs and the accounts referenced in biblical works -- or is there? You have heard of the term "behemoth" and "leviathan" haven't you? If not, then I'm quite certain, that yourself and others of like minded rationale -- will give a typical response to the question I've posed. One which defines the earth as being "millions" of years old -- which then of course, discounts the entire creation story -- as it is referenced in the bible.

This is assuming of course-- that I am limited to interpreting the belief system you subscribe to as valid, which would seem to be a rather pointless and irrational limitation imposed upon me.

So what then does thou have to attest to regarding the validity of the "assumption" of earth being "billions" of years old? Radiometric dating? Carbon dating? Yes, these methods are extremely accurate when measuring dates above a several thousand year time period -- are they not? He he he..perhaps everyone can see where I'm going with this?

Now, whilst thou ponders about how to respond to my inquiries, do take into account, that my interpretation of life, does indeed -- have historical merit to it.

So how does thou like those apples?

Originally posted by usagi_yojimbo

So how does thou like those apples?

Thou likes them apples very mucheth, thank you.

Sorry for making ye defendest thyself. Ye seems to be very open minded. ...was all thoust wanted to hear. Thanks, Thor....um, Shakespeare...er, Usagi. 😉

Originally posted by usagi_yojimbo
So what then does thou have to attest to regarding the validity of the "assumption" of earth being "billions" of years old? Radiometric dating? Carbon dating? Yes, these methods are extremely accurate when measuring dates above a several thousand year time period -- are they not? He he he..perhaps everyone can see where I'm going with this?

However, (if I am understanding you correctly) you and I shall have to agree to disagree that the Earth is older than you believe. 😉

Originally posted by BobbyD
Has it been played out thousands of time already throughout the universe? Will it not continue to do so too?

That rests on the assumption that Jesus and God exists, as do intelligent aliens, and that they believe in Jesus and God, and need to be saved - did they also fall in the garden? Is Satan acting on other planets? Wouldn't this mean God was lying?

Ultimately I don't think so. Not believing Christian claims, and logic, makes it highly unlikely aliens would be reenacting crucification all over the galaxy.

If for instance, on a remote planet across the galaxy where Christ also lived, but looked like (oh, I don't know, let's say) a giraffe, because all the inhabitants of intelligent life on this particular planet looked like giraffes, wouldn't he have been crucified there also? Has this scene not taken place already on thousands of planets across the universe? Get my drift?

Am I the only one who thinks trying to crucify a giraffe would be both difficult and funny looking? Why would aliens without out anatomy use a human form of executions and torture?

If God in his splendor, put this whole time machine known as the universe in motion, with limitless possibilities for intelligent life; and as such allows for limitless possibilties for different physical features of intelligent life elsewhere, wouldn't He also have sent Christ (in some physically different, relative form) to spread His message on these life sustaining planets also?

The operative word being "if."

Originally posted by usagi_yojimbo
As a Christian, I accept the biblical account of creation, so of course -- assuming that I accept this account as factual, it would mean that I believe that God has not created any other form of life in this universe -- since he did not mention himself as creating any such life within the bible.

because God is limited to your understanding of him? In explaining your interpretation of the dinosaurs, you failed to mention that you believed the biblical creation accounts as literal.

Originally posted by BobbyD
the "Good Book" is not meant to be taken literally ALL THE TIME.

But on whose authority should the difference be drawn? God's? Jesus's? The Pope? Etc? I'm not trying to be an *******, I'm just wondering where the line should be drawn? Maybe between the archaic teachings of the bible that stand in direct opposition to the words spoken by Jesus himself?

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
because God is limited to your understanding of him? In explaining your interpretation of the dinosaurs, you failed to mention that you believed the biblical creation accounts as literal.

But on whose authority should the difference be drawn? God's? Jesus's? The Pope? Etc? I'm not trying to be an *******, I'm just wondering where the line should be drawn? Maybe between the archaic teachings of the bible that stand in direct opposition to the words spoken by Jesus himself?

Originally posted by Nellinator
Sometimes the Bible uses obvious metaphors. Sometimes they are not obvious. Some Hebrew words can mean more than one thing (such as day or age). It is important to consider all the possible meanings and then see which ones are in concordance with the literal. Understanding the meaning is much more important than understanding the details.

and who are we, flawed human beings, to decide which metaphores are "obvious" and which have secret, hidden meanings that should be pondered over and put to the test of time? How important is considering the "possible meanings" when the truth has been declared by God, and the humans that have to rely on his representatives on earth to let them in on the secret? And if by literal, you mean what Jesus said, well there's a huge difference between what Jesus "said" and what is practiced by christians. And I agree. The meaning is much more important. But then why do so many christians get caught up in the details?