When you ask me why I believe...

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Originally posted by Shalimar_fox
i'm sure that they wish to tell you the truth

Who ?

You're mad at me cuz I like Feceman ? Overzealous tactics? You mean occasional logic, sarcasm, humor, and masturbation ?

Those 4 tactics are my foundation for a successful debate ! 😄 [/B][/QUOTE] i didn't post that

who else.we or those that belive

Originally posted by Shalimar_fox
who else.we or those that belive

What beleif ? If what you claim is Truth, then I assume you can back it up with some kind of proof ?

Otherwise, due to previous identity as a Christian, and a lack of interest in anything monotheistic, I will just disregard a claim that I have heard millions and millions of times on these forums.

o well that you.but i have faith in my God,right now i could care less about your unendless prattle for proof

Originally posted by Shalimar_fox
o well that you.but i have faith in my God,right now i could care less about your unendless prattle of proof

Why do you sound so angry ?

i'm not i just don't understand how you have no proof of the time when you go to bed ,but yet y'all are always telling others to have proof in their claims an no matter how much proof we give you,you just disregard it with out any open mind that their must be an God.yet you always tell us be open minded.I do know this If and if there is not an god both ways bring fear.because if he is not,i'm living in an world ran by sick ego maniacs,and if he dose people better get right

Originally posted by Shalimar_fox
i'm not i just don't understand how you have no proof of the time when you go to bed .

What do I need proof for? I am agnostic....I am open to the idea of God, but do not fully beleive or disbeleive.

I am not claiming my beleif as fact, while you are.

Originally posted by Shalimar_fox
,but yet y'all are always telling other to have proof in their claims an not matter how much proof we give you,you just disregard it with out any open mind that their must be an God.

You never give me or anyone any proof. The Bible is not proof of anything, it is just a book filled with contradictions.

I am open to the idea of God, but I am turned off to the Christian version of God. I was once Christian, and was not satisfied. I have found my own way.

The difference is I am not trying to shove my philosophy down your throat, nor am I judging you. You Christians judge me most of the time, and try to enforce your absurd beliefs up my ass, call me a sinner, tell me I am going to Hell for being Gay, etc.etc.etc. and I am getting pretty sick and tired of it.

If you are going to claim that your beleifs are Fact, then you better back them up. Otherwise, shut the f&ck up.

Originally posted by Shalimar_fox
yet you always tell us be open minded.

Yes, you should be open minded. I already explained how I am.

Originally posted by Shalimar_fox
I do know this If and if there is not an god both ways bring fear.because if he is not,i'm living in an world ran by sick ego maniacs,and if he dose people better get right

The sick ego maniacs who run this country happen to be Christian 😉

The sick ego maniacs who run this WORLD happen to be religious.

look who's getting mad.may the reason half of stopped was because you believed in the spirit of religion.God is not an Religious God he is more about relationship.if you read Rev.(the last book)you will signs that tell of what is happening today and there is not way any one came tell these far into the future and yes it is against god to be gay(something i once was)and we do not judge we witness to you all and i'm be real frank now i don't give an heck about what any of you feel because all the proof is in the bible just read it and stop acting like an lot of children.the ones who run the world happen to y'all and the one's that b$tch about every little thing at has god in it.it's not gonna hurt an kid for saying in god we trust,in that case get your own schools

Originally posted by Shalimar_fox
look who's getting mad.may the reason half of stopped was because you believed in the spirit of religion.God is not an Religious God he is more about relationship.if you read Rev.(the last book)you will signs that tell of what is happening today and there is not way any one came tell these far into the future and yes it is against god to be gay(something i once was)and we do not judge we witness to you all and i'm be real frank now i don't give an heck about what any of you feel because all the proof is in the bible just read it and stop acting like an lot of children.the ones who run the world happen to y'all and the one's that b$tch about every little thing at has god in it.it's not gonna hurt an kid for saying in god we trust,in that case get your own schools

You are ranting on about things that are not related to this subject. Beleive whatever you like, i do not care. I have read the Bible repeatedly, and there is no proof in it whatsoever of God's actual existance. It is all just claims that have no been supported by an factual basis.

Instead of claiming how wrong I am, why not just prove it ?

What reasons do you have for holding that position? Your reasons are based upon logic, and/or evidence or lack of it. So, is there any reason/evidence for you holding your position that you defend?

Originally posted by Shalimar_fox
i'm not i just don't understand how you have no proof of the time when you go to bed ,but yet y'all are always telling others to have proof in their claims an no matter how much proof we give you,you just disregard it with out any open mind that their must be an God.yet you always tell us be open minded.I do know this If and if there is not an god both ways bring fear.because if he is not,i'm living in an world ran by sick ego maniacs,and if he dose people better get right
he's telling you to be open minded and think, don't say that the smallest, most unstable evidence of there being a "god" means that there is, instead stop and think if that proof is actually proof, keep an open mind, think of how many wars have been started because of religeon, i'm sorry if that made no sense, it's 12:30 here and my mind is spinning cause i've been playing tie fighter for the past 5 hours

Originally posted by Shalimar_fox
What reasons do you have for holding that position? Your reasons are based upon logic, and/or evidence or lack of it. So, is there any reason/evidence for you holding your position that you defend?
prove to us that jesus existed, the bible was esssentiallaly made as a way to rule the land, back then it was like the laws of life, the ancient greeks were way more advanced than they were during the black ages because the bible forbidded it, did you know pompie had plumbing, it had working fountains in turnarounds, the big kind for decoration, ofcourse it didn't work like today, but it was plumbing, but during the dark ages (which was caused by the bible and churchs and christanity) there was nothing like that

On what basis do you believe there is no God
i'm waiting LU or any one who dose not belive

science, men are made up of chemicals, i could tell you the chemical build up if you want, and theres no dust, but mainly because, 1. for everything the bible says is "gods work" theres a perfectly logical explanation for it, like noahs arch, it's just a fictional story, and 2. because i don't believe in god, it's just wat i think,

You cannot logically state that there is no God because you cannot know all things so as to determine that there is no God.

you can't logically state that there is a god because you cannot know all things to determine that there is a god, it works both ways

your an small frie,i want the bigs one.it seems that this is the best at night.LOL.well i'll back in the morning if my God wakes me.James that's kid stuff

god does not wake you, but i don't really care to much if you think that

my god dose wake for if i am not dead i then it is by his grace that i wake