Originally posted by lando005
other than that you got to admit it's not like the F4 are gonna be pushovers here they got a lot of experiance when it comes to things like this i cant say how exactly other than some things that have already been said but i dont think it's gonna be a shutout in thor's favor
No doubt they are experienced, and powerful. However, NO ONE in the thread has addressed the question I originally posed. Hence, I see no other outcome than a shut out....
Originally posted by h1a8
He doesn't channel anything through it but the Godforce through the hammer.
The hammer can summon weather by one of its enchantments. That means who ever can possess mjolnir can do the same things thor can do with it (except Godblast).And obviously, The cloners of Thor has tapped into the source of mjlonir's mystical magic. Otherwise the hammer couldn't do anything.
Thus if they can do that with a hammer then I see no reason why that couldn't do it with flesh. Thus it makes since that clor could do anything that Thor could do equally well (since they have the same atomic structure).It was marvel's intention for clor to be just as powerful as thor.
This isn't real life stuff. So stop rationalizing his powers.
His powers lie only in the intention of the writers. Nothing more.
No, the power to summon weather is Thor's not the hammers.
Originally posted by Silent Master
No, the power to summon weather is Thor's not the hammers.
Are you on something?
It has been stated billions of times by marvel that the hammer itself has the power to summon elements of the storm. It is one of its main enchantments. All one has to do is be worthy to possess it.
Originally posted by the Darkone
Thor wins,They fought before Thor took them apart, hit sue shield so hard she passed out and literally beat the sh** out of the Thing. If Thor goes all out they are so f**ked is not even funny.
That is a comic fight, this is a forum one. In comic fights, characters almost always never fight to the best of their abilities. I've stated countless times of a strategy sue can use to ensure victory. Yet no has or can refute that strategy. Thus it still stands that FF will always win.
Originally posted by h1a8
Are you on something?It has been stated billions of times by marvel that the hammer itself has the power to summon elements of the storm. It is one of its main enchantments. All one has to do is be worthy to possess it.
Try again, its been stated by Marvel that the ability to summon weather is Thor's.
Thor can and has summoned weather without the hammer before
Originally posted by h1a8
That is a comic fight, this is a forum one. In comic fights, characters almost always never fight to the best of their abilities. I've stated countless times of a strategy sue can use to ensure victory. Yet no has or can refute that strategy. Thus it still stands that FF will always win.
And the best of Thor's ability would have him winning this fight.
sue has never used her forcefield in any way being described. the celestial thing was utter moronic PIS (celestials are allergic to hyperspace? yeahbutwhat?), and i've never seen her explode anybody from the inside, much less somebody of thor's stature.
remember, CIS is still on.
and i would like to point out that any decent TK could do everything sue could and more. i don't really understand why people act like force bubbles are sue exclusive.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Try again, its been stated by Marvel that the ability to summon weather is Thor's.Thor can and has summoned weather without the hammer before
Yet the inscription on Mjolnir is "Whosoever holds this hammer, if he be worthy, shall possess the power of... Thor".
Thus the hammer itself contains the necessary power to summon elements of the storm. All you have to be is Worthy.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Read what you just posted "the power of Thor" meaning that the power it grants is Thor's.
That is correct. I never said Thor didn't have any godly energies within him to do certain things like a Godblast (Even though I never seen him summon elements of storm without Mjolnir-please show this).
I said that the hammer itself has the power to summon elements of storm. It is said everywhere, from all the official bios from Marvel to the unofficial ones, that Mjolnir has the power to summon storm. It is one of the enchantments that is officialyl written by Marvel. That is why Beta Ray Bill can use Stormbreaker to create storms while Thor is using him own. Thus Stormbreaker has powers of its own (The exact powers of Mjolnir to be exact).