Thor and Beta Ray Bill versus Green Lanterns Hal and Kyle

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
We aren't talking about them absorbing an energy blast. We are talking about beings who can make Solid's, give themselves extra powers, and have enough will power to resist any energy absorbtion thor and brb can try and do. One has to over power someone to just absorb all thier energy. Let's not forget that please. Gl's 7/10. As Kyle restructures him and Hal's DNA to match Krytonians and they soundly beat the **** out of thor and brb with superman like abilities and thier rings.

If this argument were 2 Supermen vs. Thor and BRB I would take Thor and BRB!

Originally posted by Stupid Rookie
If this argument were 2 Supermen vs. Thor and BRB I would take Thor and BRB!

I said it would be like two superman WITH GL rings and experience. You can bet Two Superman with hal and kyl's experience would beat the tar out of Thor and BRB. and with the Gl's ability to restructure thier dna, it's all possible for them to do so.

Didn't Kyle create daxamites who had access to the Speed Force?

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Didn't Kyle create daxamites who had access to the Speed Force?

YEs if I remember correctly.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I said it would be like two superman WITH GL rings and experience. You can bet Two Superman with hal and kyl's experience would beat the tar out of Thor and BRB. and with the Gl's ability to restructure thier dna, it's all possible for them to do so.

So two people who are not used to fighting with Superman's powers are all the sudden going to know how to use it to the full extent.

This is like arguing that SS can turn his opponents into toilet paper and wipe his butt with them (literally)

Originally posted by Stupid Rookie
So two people who are not used to fighting with Superman's powers are all the sudden going to know how to use it to the full extent.

This is like arguing that SS can turn his opponents into toilet paper and wipe his butt with them (literally)

They dont' have to be used to fighting with Superman's Powers. They pretty much already can. They can give themselves better than Superman invulnerability with thier shields. They can fly as fast or faster than Superman. The rings help them with reaction times. Their Beams are superior to Superman's heat vision. But we see that Kyle gave himself extra power before and was able to use it. They dont' have to be as good as superman. Given the fact that they are already too much for Thor and BRB, them giving themselves extra powers and or creating an army of Daxamites is all they need to soundly beat Thor and BRB.

Did someone see my question over there?

Originally posted by Bentley
This is more a doubt than an argument, can you strip the power straight from the ring to make a GL powerless?

NO you can't. You have to be able to a high tier energy wielder with direct energy matching powers or able to channel thier source correctly. Takion can drain them easily. Monica Rambeau can match the energy but not drain it. Thor and BRB don't have the will power to just take Hal and kyle's energy. You have to out will power someone to just suck up thier energy. Especially if they are fighting back. Dont' you think The GL's face energy absorbers and such all the time?

I am not even saying BRB and Thor can take GLs power, but do you really doubt their will power?

Originally posted by Stupid Rookie
I am not even saying BRB and Thor can take GLs power, but do you really doubt their will power?

against Hal and Kyle? yes I do. Hal was the Spectre once. WIll power infinity to be a being like that and come back to your humanity. He also sucked up the Sun eater. This was all done with his will power. Hal's will power allowed him to destroy and recreate multiple realities. Kyle's will power has allowed him to create a cosmic being known as Oblivion, create free will thinking beings, hold a Big bang, beat angels, and help repair an actual ladder to heaven for the Universes first beings. Thier will power is leaps and bounds beyond Thor and BRB's.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
against Hal and Kyle? yes I do. Hal was the Spectre once. WIll power infinity to be a being like that and come back to your humanity. He also sucked up the Sun eater. This was all done with his will power. Hal's will power allowed him to destroy and recreate multiple realities. Kyle's will power has allowed him to create a cosmic being known as Oblivion, create free will thinking beings, hold a Big bang, beat angels, and help repair an actual ladder to heaven for the Universes first beings. Thier will power is leaps and bounds beyond Thor and BRB's.

You do of course mean the Ring, being utilized by their will power?

I mean BRB has beaten EGO, and Thor has beated G, even cracked a Celestial's armor. Their feats might not be as directly tied to Will power, but it is because their skills are not as directly linked to will power.

If they lose it won't be because they lose faith in themselves.

If any two people are to stand up against impossible odds and fight till their last breath it is them.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
NO you can't. You have to be able to a high tier energy wielder with direct energy matching powers or able to channel thier source correctly. Takion can drain them easily. Monica Rambeau can match the energy but not drain it. Thor and BRB don't have the will power to just take Hal and kyle's energy. You have to out will power someone to just suck up thier energy. Especially if they are fighting back. Dont' you think The GL's face energy absorbers and such all the time?

By the way Hal and Kyle have never changed their DNA to become kyrptonians before why should they now.

Honestly anyone who is saying Hal and Kyle in a curb stomp are just over blowing a few high end GL feats which are good but not their normal showings.

Those high-end feats are basically one in a million things. Otherwise they would be invincibly same logic goes to Silver Surfer. By the way BRB has one shotted mutliple plaets. Thors has cracked the armor of Celestials and didn't he absorb a galaxy destroying blast before 😬

Feat wise top GL feats impressive but be all end all. Superman has broken through their constructs like tissue paper. Doomsday tore through the corps like Tissue paper. Superboy Prime tore through them like tissue paper.

Honestly GLs good but not over Thor and BRb in power like people are trying to suggest.

Thor and BRB can match powers enough to allow Thor and BRB bill's superior physical stats to help them get the slight majority. 😬

Originally posted by Stupid Rookie
You do of course mean the Ring, being utilized by their will power?

I mean BRB has beaten EGO, and Thor has beated G, even cracked a Celestial's armor. Their feats might not be as directly tied to Will power, but it is because their skills are not as directly linked to will power.

Given the fact that the rings respond to thier wearers will power, HAl and Kyle have shown infinite or nearly infinite will power. given the fact that the rings do what ever the wearer wills, it's concievable for Them to do crazy things like Create free thinking beings and hold big bangs. The Rings are only limited by the wearer. And as I pointed out, hal and kyle seem to have no limits to thier wills. Thor and BRB who are extremely powerful, do have limits and are outclassed. Hal and Kyle non Jobbing Outclass almost anyone who isn't a sky father.

Originally posted by Newjak
Yeah and while the GLs are fighting from having their energy taken Thor and BRB come up and whack them with their hamemrs.

By the way Hal and Kyle have never changed their DNA to become kyrptonians before why should they now.

Honestly anyone who is saying Hal and Kyle in a curb stomp are just over blowing a few high end GL feats which are good but not their normal showings.

Those high-end feats are basically one in a million things. Otherwise they would be invincibly same logic goes to Silver Surfer. By the way BRB has one shotted mutliple plaets. Thors has cracked the armor of Celestials and didn't he absorb a galaxy destroying blast before 😬

Feat wise top GL feats impressive but be all end all. Superman has broken through their constructs like tissue paper. Doomsday tore through the corps like Tissue paper. Superboy Prime tore through them like tissue paper.

Honestly GLs good but not over Thor and BRb in power like people are trying to suggest.

Thor and BRB can match powers enough to allow Thor and BRB bill's superior physical stats to help them get the slight majority. 😬

Um no just not. First of all, Superboy prime can beat the shit out of Thor and BRb. No need to compare his punches to anything Thor and BRb can dish out. Not even in the same ball park. 2ndly, Superman breaking a construct depends on the situation. Were the Gl's in their right minds? was Superman? did the Gl's know superman was out of his mind. Fighting a sick freind tends to make your will to beat them go down. Your argument does not hold up.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Given the fact that the rings respond to thier wearers will power, HAl and Kyle have shown infinite or nearly infinite will power. given the fact that the rings do what ever the wearer wills, it's concievable for Them to do crazy things like Create free thinking beings and hold big bangs. The Rings are only limited by the wearer. And as I pointed out, hal and kyle seem to have no limits to thier wills. Thor and BRB who are extremely powerful, do have limits and are outclassed. Hal and Kyle non Jobbing Outclass almost anyone who isn't a sky father.

And you think that Thor and BRB don't outclass almost anyone that isn't a sky father?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Um no just not. First of all, Superboy prime can beat the shit out of Thor and BRb. No need to compare his punches to anything Thor and BRb can dish out. Not even in the same ball park. 2ndly, Superman breaking a construct depends on the situation. Were the Gl's in their right minds? was Superman? did the Gl's know superman was out of his mind. Fighting a sick freind tends to make your will to beat them go down. Your argument does not hold up.

Neither does your argument that their will power is never faltering and never ending.

Originally posted by Stupid Rookie
Neither does your argument that their will power is never faltering and never ending.

lol. Thor and BRB are simply fan favorites like ODin and Thanos. That is why they get the victory so much.Has nothing to do with the opponent. All your doing is going off what Thor and BRB has done and giving no consideration to what the opponent has done and will do. Many of these battles here are judged in favor of fan favorites with no thought into what the other opponent has done or how they are actually defeated in a non job mode. Going be actual feats and what the characters have done on panel, the GL's soundly trump Thor and BRB.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
lol. Thor and BRB are simply fan favorites like ODin and Thanos. That is why they get the victory so much.Has nothing to do with the opponent. All your doing is going off what Thor and BRB has done and giving no consideration to what the opponent has done and will do. .

Pot Kettle Black

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Um no just not. First of all, Superboy prime can beat the shit out of Thor and BRb. No need to compare his punches to anything Thor and BRb can dish out. Not even in the same ball park. 2ndly, Superman breaking a construct depends on the situation. Were the Gl's in their right minds? was Superman? did the Gl's know superman was out of his mind. Fighting a sick freind tends to make your will to beat them go down. Your argument does not hold up.

They weressome examples besides their obvious higher incarnations like Ion and Parallax Hal and Kyle aren't that strong. Superman Blue completely owned Kyle by showing that GLs aren't that powerful. Heck I could also bring up Deathstroke where Hal locked up into a test of will and no one knew who was going to win.

Unless of course you think they are beating beings like Odin or even Thanos 😬

And while their powers are linked to willpower it isn't like Gladiator where if their confidence drops, their power level completely drops as well.

So stop trying to sit there and proclaim two high end herald level beings are more than what they are.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
lol. Thor and BRB are simply fan favorites like ODin and Thanos. That is why they get the victory so much.Has nothing to do with the opponent. All your doing is going off what Thor and BRB has done and giving no consideration to what the opponent has done and will do. Many of these battles here are judged in favor of fan favorites with no thought into what the other opponent has done or how they are actually defeated in a non job mode. Going be actual feats and what the characters have done on panel, the GL's soundly trump Thor and BRB.