there really isnt anything about Wayne thats impressive to me, ill give him some credit cuz hes at least trying to be some what lyrical in his newer shit, but its mediocre at best. Hes using soggy punchlines and the same repetitive style hes had since Tha Block is Hot. Plus i heard that some of his shit on The Carter was ghostwritten. He dosent sound like he puts alot of effort into what he does either because no matter what people are going to buy it just cuz hes popular and hes huge on the entertainment market, espcially the Black entertainment market and its obvious that he knows this.
I hear a hit song on the radio, then like a week later i hear a remix of that exact same song with wayne on it. He is a business man i'll give him that, he knows how to work the market to his advantage.
Originally posted by koolruningz
Why do you keep coming back to this Nelly thing man? Like it cancels out Criminal Minded, By all means necessary and Edutainment.
KRS-One is respected for being a pioneer in the hip hop world, he's right up there with Chuck-D and Rakim.
How exactly has Nelly helped hip hop in comparison? Other than selling millions of records to kids who will accept anything that MTV tells them is cool.
But then again if you think bling bling is important then we are on opposite ends of the scale anyway and probably shouldnt waste each others time.
1.) All of which are wack both lyrically and production wise and barely went gold.
2.) Don't EVER compare KRS-One's non-influential ass to guys who's influence range from Nas to Dead Prez. Who has KRS-One influenced that makes you think otherwise? Fat Joe? Ja Rule?
Bun B said he used to like KRS-One until he realized he was an idiot. Just a funny tidbit of info.
3.) Nelly helped turn rap from eh to probably the number #1 grossing genre of music in the industry and has recieved grammy's for his body of work. What has KRS-One done to compare? Make a wack diss that's only remembered by posters on the internet?
4.) Lol @ "kids who will accept anything that MTV tells them is cool," that kinda reminds me of the goth kids episode of South Park.
5.) Didn't say more important I said more influential. What would rap be without Bling Bling? Very different. What would rap be without KRS-One? The same.
PS: Nelly won the beef because #1 not only demolished KRS-One lyrically (and the fact that KRS's come back was some of the most 3rd grade shit I've ever heard in my life) but was a #1 hit at the same time. How many rappers can have #1 hit diss songs? Certainly not KRS.
Originally posted by B dot Rob
1.) All of which are wack both lyrically and production wise and barely went gold.2.) Don't EVER compare KRS-One's non-influential ass to guys who's influence range from Nas to Dead Prez. Who has KRS-One influenced that makes you think otherwise? Fat Joe? Ja Rule?
Bun B said he used to like KRS-One until he realized he was an idiot. Just a funny tidbit of info.
3.) Nelly helped turn rap from eh to probably the number #1 grossing genre of music in the industry and has recieved grammy's for his body of work. What has KRS-One done to compare? Make a wack diss that's only remembered by posters on the internet?
4.) Lol @ "kids who will accept anything that MTV tells them is cool," that kinda reminds me of the goth kids episode of South Park.
5.) Didn't say more important I said more influential. What would rap be without Bling Bling? Very different. What would rap be without KRS-One? The same.
PS: Nelly won the beef because #1 not only demolished KRS-One lyrically (and the fact that KRS's come back was some of the most 3rd grade shit I've ever heard in my life) but was a #1 hit at the same time. How many rappers can have #1 hit diss songs? Certainly not KRS.
Oh i get it now, you're one of the dudes who thinks that how many records you sell determines how much talent you have. You must also think that N-Sync and Britney are top of the food chain to then.
How you can say KRS-One has contributed nothing to hip hop is beyond me, i guess you missed when BDP, PE, Run DMC and Rakim were dropping their groundbreaking albums. Even if they sound a bit dated now it doesnt diminish the effect they have had on hip hop as a whole. Refusing to acknowledge this just makes you sound like one of these idiots who think hip hop started with MC Hammer and considering you listed Common as your favourite emcee i know you're not that dumb.
Look i've seen you argue pointlessly for pages on NBA topics and im not gonna hijack this thread like that, so we'll just leave it at that ok?
Originally posted by B dot Rob
what's this guy's point of being alive again?PS: Nelly could buy Canada and every broad you and your fire crotch in a completely homo way KRS-One ever WANTED to touch.
Canada =/= hip hop
and what? 😂 i have no idea what you're talking about
Originally posted by Phat J
man, you must have like a million of those stored away for all your internet beefs, you've busted like 4 out on me already. ill let you in on a little secret, they arent funny.
What the fvck? Are you serious again?
who are you again? is there any point to your existance? are you going to tell me Krumb Snatcha didn't write for Guru when he did?
And the Movement was hot ass. Inspectah Deck ****ing sucks as a solo artist and couldn't put out a better then 6/10 album to save his life (even though I haven't heard that Resident Patient or w/e but I'm pretty sure it's garbage).
you're retarded. need i say more?
okay, i will. who are you? is there any point to your existence on kmc? 😂 (had to throw that in there, it was so dumb)
from what ive seen no one agrees with or (might be speaking just for myself here) likes you.. are you here to just make pointless arguments about things you dont even understand? okay, you have different taste than most of the hip hop heads here, thats cool. but claiming that lil wayne is more important or influencial than krs one? come on man, thats just retarded. you obviously dont know shit about hip hop if you honestly believe that. its even alright to believe it, no ones trying to change your mind, just shut the **** up about it.
Originally posted by Phat J
you're retarded. need i say more?okay, i will. who are you? is there any point to your existence on kmc? 😂 (had to throw that in there, it was so dumb)
from what ive seen no one agrees with or (might be speaking just for myself here) likes you.. are you here to just make pointless arguments about things you dont even understand? okay, you have different taste than most of the hip hop heads here, thats cool. but claiming that lil wayne is more important or influencial than krs one? come on man, thats just retarded. you obviously dont know shit about hip hop if you honestly believe that. its even alright to believe it, no ones trying to change your mind, just shut the **** up about it.
u mad? 😂
And by merely being from Canada automatically negates any and all right to call out people's (who know wayyy more then you do) hip hop credibility.
btw: I don't know about you, but when I post on the internet, my mouth's always closed 😂
But to not look like a total Phat J and to actually make a point, someone remind me, what exactly has KRS-One influenced?
Absolutely nothing
But being from Canada you wouldn't know that.
Re B Dot BobMy Place by Nelly or 9mm go bang by Krs1??
hmmm tough choiceNelly is pop shit
And your comments on record sales being attributed to talent
i guess that makes Hammer one of the greats then.
Nelly is pop shit and KRS-One is shit. I'd listen to any track on Country Grammar over any KRS song
Except one CD =/= greatness. If Hammer could consistentantly put out platinum (or diamond in his case) CD's then we'd talk.
Oh and I guaruntee you MC Hammer is remembered wayyyy more then KRS's garbage ass.
Originally posted by B dot RobNelly is pop shit and KRS-One is shit. I'd listen to any track on Country Grammar over any KRS song
Except one CD =/= greatness. If Hammer could consistentantly put out platinum (or diamond in his case) CD's then we'd talk.
Oh and I guaruntee you MC Hammer is remembered wayyyy more then KRS's garbage ass.
This guy is a serious ass hole(or arse hole if your joining us in the uk)
and one who doesnt get sarcasm either.
Every clown on the street knows who Mc Hammer is
Ask em who Chuck D is and most of em wouldnt have a clue....does this make Hammer greater than mr D??
Your points are.........pointless
Originally posted by vintageSW77
This guy is a serious ass hole(or arse hole if your joining us in the uk)
and one who doesnt get sarcasm either.Every clown on the street knows who Mc Hammer is
Ask em who Chuck D is and most of em wouldnt have a clue....does this make Hammer greater than mr D??
Chuck D has actual platinum plaques and awards acknowledging his body of work from credible places and made an actual impact on the music scene KRS-One has.................none of the above and got clowned by Nelly.
BTW: I'm 110% positive just as many people identify the group Public Enemy (especially considering the re-emergence of Flava Flav) as they do Hammer
Your points are.........pointless
not nearly as pointless as your life the end.
PS: lmao @ you thinking KRS-One will be remembered over Wayne.