Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
You have never asked "What makes them unintelligent to you?", you have asked what makes ME think I think they are, which is irrelevant and faulty wording. Ask the correct question and I'll give you an answer, and I have done.Yes, he's rich, my point is you were silly to call him the Bill Hicks of hip hop and then say "I'm not comparing them.". You were silly to say "Definitely more than anyone in the game.", because he isn't making more than anybody in hip hop.
He may have had a better year so far, but he isn't richer or more successful as a businessman than Puffy or Jay-Z.
Furthermore, this means nothing really. My point is, when you're marketing to idiots who will go out and pay more for a shoe that simply says "G-Unit.", it isn't as hard to make money as if you were marketing to a broad fanbase.
-AC
Now you had to cross the line and use ad hominem and call my comparisons stupid and me silly all without me insulting you at all. But I knew you couldn't resist. In fact, I thought it was weird that you haven't been insulting me.
And this is from a guy who likes fcukin' Prince. Therefore this conversation is over. I'd rather end the convo now then to stoop down to elementary, time-wasting, irrelevant name calling. When you see someone disagreeing with you the psuedo-superior music connoisseur in you comes out and tries to diss anybody who's in contrast to what you think and believe. You're in denial.. That you like Prince proves that. You start bitching and insulting people when they hold the opposing view.
Maybe the next time we can hold a mature convo on something else. I'd like that. But I'm done with you on this topic. Insulting someone while conversing with him means you not taking the other person or the topic serious and with respect. And I don't want to concentrate all efforts on how witty i can be with insults like I know you will.
And i know you'll say "Stop boo hooing, you just don't wanna respond." Not the case. There's a lack of respect now and I'm not gonna offer respect, (in a convo) it if it's not offered to me..
Until next time.
Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Now you had to cross the line and use ad hominem and call my comparisons stupid and me silly all without me insulting you at all. But I knew you couldn't resist. In fact, I thought it was weird that you haven't been insulting me.
It was a stupid comparison, does that make you a stupid person? Did I say that? No. I said it was a stupid comparison and that you were being silly to make it.
If you take "Silly" as such a hurtful insult then I don't know what you're doing on an internet forum.
In fact, I think you've been waiting for any excuse to play the persecution card yet again.
Originally posted by FistOfThe North
And this is from a guy who likes fcukin' Prince. Therefore this conversation is over. I'd rather end the convo now then to stoop down to elementary, time-wasting, irrelevant name calling. When you see someone disagreeing with you the psuedo-superior music connoisseur in you comes out and tries to diss anybody who's in contrast to what you think and believe. You're in denial.. That you like Prince proves that. You start bitching and insulting people when they hold the opposing view.
Wait, I say you are being silly for making such a comparison and you launch into a paragraph of that? How does that make me the bitching one? How hypocritical, I use the word "silly" in conjunction with your comparing of Bill Hicks to 50 Cent, you say I'm being ad hominem, only to follow it with;
"And this is from a guy who likes fcukin' Prince. Therefore this conversation is over. I'd rather end the convo now then to stoop down to elementary, time-wasting, irrelevant name calling. When you see someone disagreeing with you the psuedo-superior music connoisseur in you comes out and tries to diss anybody who's in contrast to what you think and believe. You're in denial.. That you like Prince proves that. You start bitching and insulting people when they hold the opposing view.".
I have been nothing BUT civil, you just want an excuse to moan and leave the debate. If you can't debate, just bail, but don't use the tired excuse of "It's your fault for insulting me.", because that got old a year ago. I'm still trying to work out what me liking Prince has to do with anything. That's as ad hominem as you can get.
Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Maybe the next time we can hold a mature convo on something else. I'd like that. But I'm done with you on this topic. Insulting someone while conversing with him means you not taking the other person or the topic serious and with respect. And I don't want to concentrate all efforts on how witty i can be with insults like I know you will.And i know you'll say "Stop boo hooing, you just don't wanna respond." Not the case. There's a lack of respect now and I'm not gonna offer respect, (in a convo) it if it's not offered to me..
Until next time.
I'm not taking it serious, you're comparing 50 Cent to Bill Hicks in a business sense. It's not an argument that deserves to be taken seriously, but I have been nothing but civil and you retort with this; a temper tantrum.
You know I'll say "Stop boo hooing, you just don't wanna respond." because you know that's what you're doing, and the technique of "I'll say it first so it looks like he is the one employing a technique!" is as old as dinosaurs.
The bottom line is, you got offended by me using the word silly, and calling your ARGUMENT stupid, which isn't ad hominem anyway, since I attacked the argument.
But whatever, cry all you want. There's a reason you're laughed at and not respected in the GDF, cos you're a whiner. It's the same here.
-AC
Originally posted by ~Bun Bun~
Red is pretty cool. Never really went out of my way to listen to him.Another thing when you ask people this question alot of them say Jay-Z and honestly I think he is boring as hell... 😐
Redman is nice. You're right about that. He just came out with a new album too but Jay z's was nice too. Vol. 2... Hard Knock Life was Jay z's finest to me.
Ludacris is nice with the flow too but he's gotten too commercial. And I'm not into pop.
Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Now you had to cross the line and use ad hominem and call my comparisons stupid and me silly all without me insulting you at all. But I knew you couldn't resist. In fact, I thought it was weird that you haven't been insulting me.And this is from a guy who likes fcukin' Prince. Therefore this conversation is over. I'd rather end the convo now then to stoop down to elementary, time-wasting, irrelevant name calling. When you see someone disagreeing with you the psuedo-superior music connoisseur in you comes out and tries to diss anybody who's in contrast to what you think and believe. You're in denial.. That you like Prince proves that. You start bitching and insulting people when they hold the opposing view.
Maybe the next time we can hold a mature convo on something else. I'd like that. But I'm done with you on this topic. Insulting someone while conversing with him means you not taking the other person or the topic serious and with respect. And I don't want to concentrate all efforts on how witty i can be with insults like I know you will.
And i know you'll say "Stop boo hooing, you just don't wanna respond." Not the case. There's a lack of respect now and I'm not gonna offer respect, (in a convo) it if it's not offered to me..
Until next time.
Well ... That sounds kinda like my little spaz in the other thread. Seems like we both learnt the hard way that there is a difference between disagreeing and bashing.
Anyway, to be honest, there aren't many rappers I can stand. I can tolerate the Fort Minor crew, and I can stand to listen to the couple of Eminem songs that he wrote about his daughter. But I do hold respect for any rapper who has the guts to go out there in a mainstream music industry where most rap songs are related to sex, and write a song that has a significant meaning behind it. Not saying I like to listen to those songs, I just have respect for them.
Originally posted by vanice
1. Nas
2. Big Daddy Kane
3. Kool G Rap
4. Jay-z
5. KRS one
6. Common
7. Promoe
8. Talib Khwali
9. Rakim
10. Twista
1.Nas
2.Common
3.MF Doom
4.Mos Def
5.KRS One
6.Talib Kweli
7.Big L
8.Rakim
9.Guru
10.Jay-Z
A year from now it will probably be all different again