I think Magneto could actually be a threat to Thanos. Magneto's shields are capable of withstanding nukes. His shields are powerful enough to take blows from Thor's hammer and She Hulk at the same time and could probably own both of them.
Thor is probably powerful enough to fight SS and Thor has owned the Gladiator. Magneto can be at least be a nuisance to Thanos.
I realise this is dubious 'evidence' of Thanos' intelligence, but prior to Annihilation there was an interview with its editor (http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=63151 )
Newsarama: So - at the start – Thanos knows what’s going down? Howso?
Andy Schmidt: Thanos has always had a unique relationship with Death and a more intricate working knowledge of his own universe than most. So, essentially, part 6th sense, and part he’s smarter than all of us Earth people put together.
NRAMA: All of us?
AS: Including Reed Richards.
😉
Originally posted by Wally West
There is absolutely no way, no how, that Doom is as smart as Thanos. Thanos' tech makes Doom's look like a joke, tech Thanos has invented and created himself. Hes outsmarted the Elder of the Universe the Grandmaster at his own game, Thanos is one of the smartest beings in the universe. Doom has nothing on him.And yes Absorbing Man probably could absorb Thanos' power, but doesn't he have a limit on how much power he can absorb? And doesn't Thanos' power come from a near limitless source of cosmic energy? And Thanos simply isn't stupid enough to power up Absorbing Man like that, everyone outsmarts Absorbing Man, it will be a walk in the park for Thanos, or he'll just shut down his mind or contain him without even touching him.
Thanos himself has said that Doom has a "Towering Intellect" and needs to be watched.
Again, as I said before, if Doom can understand and harness the energies and technologies of Galactus and the Beyonder, he can do the same with Thanos.
And, Absorbing Man may be able to absorb some aspect of Thanos' power, but he would not be able to replicate it exactly. I am a big AM fan, but he blew up trying to absorb the power of the Earth. As much as I think the team would win this, I also believe that Thanos' power excedes the power of the earth. I think AM would have a problem absorbing or replicating ALL of Thanos' power.
But, I think if he wanted to, he could absorb the attributes of part of Thanos power, Cosmic Power, Shield, Physical Traits, etc.
He would definitely gain Thanos' attention.
Theres no prep and everyone is just teleported onto the battlefield, exactly what tech is Doom is going to take advantage of, and without prep how is Doom going to survive any sort of assault from Thanos long enough to take advantage of it? I've already pointed out Thanos respects Doom and keeps an eye on him, its silly to assume he will just ignore Doom and let him come up with some scheme during battle, he'll take him out first.
Well thats a killer argument.
Doom v Thor, no prep. Doom as hes always prepared.
Doom v Odin, no prep. Doom will have something planned for him.
Doom v Galactus, no prep. Doom probably created his own ultimate nullifier in advance and carries it with him as hes always prepared.
etc. etc.
You need to understand Doom is not in Thanos' league intelligence wise, or prep wise.
Originally posted by Horrificus
Because, current Doom is well awre of Thanos as a threat, and would already have something prepared.That's his "thing".
But the thread says, no prep, even if he is aware of Thanos threat, maybe he wouldn't know Thanos would come and even Doom wouldn't have something for him, because Thanos just teleported on Earth. In that case, Victor would probably go first down, as he is the weakest in this team.
Originally posted by Wally West
Well thats a killer argument.Doom v Thor, no prep. Doom as hes always prepared.
Doom v Odin, no prep. Doom will have something planned for him.
Doom v Galactus, no prep. Doom probably created his own ultimate nullifier in advance and carries it with him as hes always prepared.
etc. etc.You need to understand Doom is not in Thanos' league intelligence wise, or prep wise.
Ha! Doom said that is what you would say.
He was prepared.
In Doom's armor, he keeps snapshots of Thanos in a dress, just in case they run into eachother.
Always prepared...
Originally posted by HorrificusYou win, can't argue with that one 😉
In Doom's armor, he keeps snapshots of Thanos in a dress, just in case they run into eachother.Always prepared...
Even though Thanos respects Doom, it doesn't make them equals in intellect:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/Ixion83/DoomThanos2.jpg
"Considering the limits of his understanding of the cosmic..."
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/Ixion83/DoomThanosi.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/Ixion83/DoomThanosii.jpg
"Even more sophisticated than my own"
Originally posted by Xplosive
But the thread says, no prep, even if he is aware of Thanos threat,
Theres no prep, but I think its allowed if we thinks it likely they would have made prep....geeeez im not sure if that makes sense.
For example The Abomination will not have made any prep just in case he comes across Thanos. Abomination does not get prep unless otherwise stated. We know that Dr Doom would have preped himself because of his character therefore he automatically could get some prep.
Originally posted by Alfheim
Theres no prep, but I think its allowed if we thinks it likely they would have made prep....geeeez im not sure if that makes sense.For example The Abomination will not have made any prep just in case he comes across Thanos. Abomination does not get prep unless otherwise stated. We know that Dr Doom would have preped himself because of his character therefore he automatically could get some prep.
Originally posted by Wally WestEven though Thanos respects Doom, it doesn't make them equals in intellect:
Yes but he is still impressed and he has to fight not just Dr Doom but other villains as well. The fact that Thanos has Doom under constant survillance implies that Dr Doom's intelligence can be dangerous to Thanos.
[Sigh] This is almost as bad as the arguments that Batman is always prepared no matter the opponent.
Do you seriously think Dr. Doom has something say built in to his armour just in case he comes across Thanos, and that something is capable of defeating him? Didn't Doom recently have to fight Black Panther or something? Black Panther...Thanos, hardly in the same league are they.
But on the other hand, you don't think Thanos is prepared in case he has to face Doom, and is going to let Doom carry out whatever prep plan he has in store...
Someone go start a Thanos v Dr. Doom thread with no prep, lets see what the general opinion is
Originally posted by Wally West
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Do you seriously think Dr. Doom has something say built in to his armour just in case he comes across Thanos, and that something is capable of defeating him?But on the other hand, you don't think Thanos is prepared in case he has to face Doom, and is going to let Doom carry out whatever prep plan he has in store...
I should have elaborated of course Thanos will be prepared as well. I was just merely saying that Dr Doom will have some prep, you are jumping the gun I did not say that this means Dr Doom will win.
My poiint is that Dr Doom may not be as intelligent as Thanos but he is still smart enough to be a threat AND Thanos has to fight the other villains as well. Magneto is powerful enough to at least be a nuisance to Thanos.
Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
Doom with prep vs Thanos with prep would be awesome.
Not to mention that Thanos has to fight several other villains at the same time. I just cant see the other villains standing there while Thanos trys to use his prep on Doom. Thanos maybe preped for Doom but he is not preped to fight Doom and several other villains.
OK couple of new questions for you guys:
1) Who is breaking through Thanos' shields that even Galactus has to exert himself to break
2) Who is protecting the villains from Thanos' attacks, considering Mandarin, Abomination, Ultron, etc. would hardly be able to stand up to many direct attacks from him
3) Who is stopping the mind attacks, matter/energy manipulation attacks from Thanos
4) Who is killing Thanos, which only Drax the Destroyer can do 😉 Or who is KOing him, something Odin and Tyrant couldn't do
Originally posted by Wally West
OK couple of new questions for you guys:1) Who is breaking through Thanos' shields that even Galactus has to exert himself to break
2) Who is protecting the villains from Thanos' attacks, considering Mandarin, Abomination, Ultron, etc. would hardly be able to stand up to many direct attacks from him
3) Who is stopping the mind attacks, matter/energy manipulation attacks from Thanos
4) Who is killing Thanos, which only Drax the Destroyer can do 😉 Or who is KOing him, something Odin and Tyrant couldn't do
I dunno isn't some of this stuff PIS?
1) This isn't the incident were Galactus was almost at full power.
2) Since Magneto can survive Nukes and dircet blows from Thor's hammer and She Hulk I think he can at least take some blats from Thanos.
3) Well I think Magneto,Dr Doom, Apocalypse may have some resistance. Can Thanos Psi blast agroup or just one individual. AS for matter manipulation there is no proof he can turn people like Hulk or Thor into stone. I think Magneto again can have some resistance to matter manipulation. Oh yeah Juggernaut has PSI resistance too.
4) That sounds like PIS to me Drax KO's Thanos but Odin and Tyrnat can't...PIS. Especially since Wrrior Madness Thor could take on Drax and Magneto could probably still beat Warrior madness Thor.
Originally posted by Wally West
OK couple of new questions for you guys:1) Who is breaking through Thanos' shields that even Galactus has to exert himself to break
2) Who is protecting the villains from Thanos' attacks, considering Mandarin, Abomination, Ultron, etc. would hardly be able to stand up to many direct attacks from him
3) Who is stopping the mind attacks, matter/energy manipulation attacks from Thanos
4) Who is killing Thanos, which only Drax the Destroyer can do 😉 Or who is KOing him, something Odin and Tyrant couldn't do
My questions:
1. How would Thanos manhandle the Juggernaut who walks around with his shield up? Unlike Thanos, he can use his shield without help from a ship that is not allowed to be used in this match.
2. Could the combined forces of the villains protect Doom for a second so that he can do the Ovoid trick? I certainly think they could. Probably wouldn't work every time, but I can see that happening.
