If Doom has prep, Thanos is not doing any mental whammy on him.
Ovoid technology is a threat to Galactus-level power/technology. Thanos is NOT above a technology that is over 11 billion years in the making.
If the Ovoid trick works, and has not been proven to be useless against Thanos, it has to be considered that it will work against Thanos.
You can't just disqualify something because your opinion of Thanos is high. You have to use statements, feats and actual occurrences in books to, at least create some kind of formula or theory.
If we say that Doom is prep'ed and has the abilty to mind-swap, unless Thanos has been shown to be able to defend against that specific attack, it has to be considered that it will work.
The whole reason these guys are considered "Top Villains" is because they have been proven to have either Powers or Artifacts or Technology or Intelligence that place them well above Human-Level threats.
Juggernaut - Taps the power of a Dimension-ruling God/Demon
Absorbing Man - Power created by an Ancient God of
a Warrior Pantheon, created to unseat Odin himself.
Mandarin - Uses Artifacts of incredible power, created by
an ancient advanced alient culture. A long list of powers.
Ultron - Has defeated the Avengers, Thanos has been defeated by
the Avengers.
Dr. Doom - Intellect capable of out maneuvering and defeating
Universal Abstract Entities.
and on and on...
These are all "Team Beaters" and some are "Universal Threats"
To say, casually, that Thanos beats them all at the same time is just silly.
Originally posted by TshernBecause Thanos would be taking Juggs helmet off for him?
Why on Earth would Juggernaut have to take off his helmet?And Absorbing man would turn him self to stone and continue moving?
And most of all, Thanos used the shields of his SHIP against Galactus, not shields created by his own power. Hence, the point is utterly moot.
Whatever, Thanos also used three shields to protect him against Omega, so why shouldn't he do it here?
Originally posted by HorrificusWhat basically ruins your whole arguement is that Beyonder plucked that Doom from the future.
Doom was able to absorb the power of Galactus' ship. Then he went up to battle Beyonder.
Beyonder had Doom defeated, and he was actually disecting him.
While Doom was split in half, (up the middle), he did his classic "Doom Thing", where is realizes the unbeleivable pain of his last moments of life as he starts to fade away, and then states that he is not just an average person or something. Beyonder continues his disection and inspection of Doom's dying body.
He is dying, but refuses, for, he is, after all, "Doom", and they show his outstretched hand reaching toward a single button within his split armor...Doom Triumphant.
So, in reality, he defeated Galactus and Beyonder. With just his brain.
Don't tell me that He can't do the same to Thanos.
Do you see, a future Doom, along with Galactus's power, and access to his ship, along with prep anywhere here?
That would be like me saying that Thanos took all of the Gems, and beat Eternity with them. That is about how much sense that makes.
Or Thanos was able to absorb the HOTU because he powered himself up so much, so it shouldn't be a problem to do that to Doom.
Originally posted by masterbruceWhy is Thanos going to be punching? Nevermind, I saw you think Absorbing Man is more dangerous than SS.
Juggernaut is not movable if he charges at Thanos. He took Thor's godblast without flinching, I doubt Thano's punches are going to be much more powerful.Absorbing Man can be arguably more dangerous than Surfer and much more durable.
Abomination is stronger than Hulk.
Originally posted by masterbruce
Mandarin's Powers:* Left Pinkie — "Ice Blast," with which he could encase foes in bands of ice or create walls of ice to block pursuers.
* Left Ring Finger — "Mento-Intensifier," which amplifies the Mandarin's own mental energies and allows him to control the minds of others.
* Left Middle Finger — "Electro Blast," unleashing powerful lightning-like bolts.
* Left Index Finger — "Flame Blast," a flamethrower-like gout of flame.
* Left Thumb — "White Light," a laser-like beam.
* Right Thumb — "Matter Rearranger," which can rearrange the atoms and molecules of a substance. The Mandarin usually uses this ring to change the shape of objects, such as causing a giant stone hand to erupt out of the earth and grapple a foe. He has, however, used it to transmute the molecular composition of objects, such as changing the air around a target into a poisonous gas.
* Right Index Finger — "Impact Beam," a blast of concussive or gravitational force.
* Right Middle Finger — "Vortex Beam," allows Mandarin to control air and wind, allowing him to fly.
* Right Ring Finger — "Disintegration Beam." Unlike the others, this Ring requires a twenty minute recharge time between firings.
* Right Pinkie — "Black Light," which can create areas of absolute blackness.
Originally posted by Tshern
1. For crying out loud, since when was Thanos allowed to use the shields of his SHIP in these matches? If he is allowed to use those, why wouldn't Doom be allowed to timetravel or something?
Originally posted by Lord S
This is the first I've heard of Thanos' forcefield being powered by his ship. AFAIK, it's his personal forcefield...much like Magneto's.Care to elaborate, Tshern?
He wasn't using his ship in that fight either, he was flying around on that chair in Thanos' Quest (his ship never made an appearance), so it was either a command to that chair (which he didnt have in the Galactus encounter), or like I suggested earlier some tech on his body that has a voice command.
Thanos can also create shields under his own power and without tech by the way:
http://img118.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fallen44os.jpg
Originally posted by Wally West
He wasn't using his ship in that fight either, he was flying around on that chair in Thanos' Quest (his ship never made an appearance), so it was either a command to that chair (which he didnt have in the Galactus encounter), or like I suggested earlier some tech on his body that has a voice command.Thanos can also create shields under his own power and without tech by the way:
http://img118.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fallen44os.jpg
I don't think personal forcefields help him counter the Ovoid trick, though.
Originally posted by Tshern
Mmkay, I'm cool with that. Either my memory just failed to serve or there was something in the Finnish translation I saw. Thanks for correcting me, Wally and Soljer.I don't think personal forcefields help him counter the Ovoid trick, though.
No worries. I'm not sure if the Ovoid trick would work on Thanos or not, but if it would, it's certainly an avenue to victory.
Originally posted by Wally West
I doubt it would, Thanos would laugh it off like Jabba to Luke in Return of the Jedi, "Your mind tricks won't work on me boy!" 😉He is pretty much immune to mind tricks and attacks, and he'd just blast Doom's head off if he got close enough to try it.
Originally posted by TshernSo Reed has telepathic powers on the same range to give him a win over Moondragon with Mind Gem? He has mind powers at all?
No-one has showed that it can be resisted. Well, I haven't seen anyone resist it. As we saw with the shield-issue, I could be wrong, but at least Reed was unable to resist it at all. I don't think it can be resisted at all.
Originally posted by bigbran
So Reed has telepathic powers on the same range to give him a win over Moondragon with Mind Gem? He has mind powers at all?
Originally posted by bigbran
So a body swap, in which Doom is uses his mind, telepathic powers have no defense against it?
I still don't see how Reed not being able to affect it, has anything to do with Thanos.
