Originally posted by Jaeh_JediPirate
It isn't. it really isn't. *sigh*don't visit the sparrow tattoo then... (well, not that you'll visit it or something) full of sparrabeth speculation.. *sigh*
Oh I dont mind the speculation (well unless its bad...lol) Its just that its hard seeing a scene between those 2 when the scene is BEAMING with chemistry and when its so OBVIOUS that they Love each other, and then know that it ended differently W/O HARDLY ANY CLOSURE AT ALL.....It's Seriously Heartbreaking, well at least it is to me!!! 🙁
I Just Love Sparrabeth so much and I Know I'm Not Crazy! I Know i fell in Love with something because it was clearly there in COTBP & DMC! I just cant get over how they really tried to pull a fast one on us and expect us to be ok with the way they, i wont say ruined b/c we all knew Whelpabeth was an option from the begining, IMPAIRED the ending! It was wrong!!
If LIZ was going to stay on the Island alone anyways waiting for the Whelp to show up every 10 years, then NO ONE SHOULD HAVE HAD HER AT ALL!!! I dont care what the meant for Bloody Stupid Will!!!
I know im being harsh to Will...i do like him....just not right now!
Ya that whole "Women Widowed Before her Marriage" thing is always what killed me too!!
I mean like they said how can a women be widowed b4 even getting married....it does only mean that she had to have been married b4 and lost a husband, b4 remarrying! Which only makes me believe that our theory about the Jack and Liz Kiss at the end of DMC resembling an alter and them getting married is true!
Jack and Liz did marry, cause hey Jack is a Captain and can do that...they kissed and she left him to his death, thus resulting in the death of her 1st husband! So by the time she married Will she was already widowed!
Will didnt die until after they married, so the quote couldnt have been reffering to them!
and then the "Searching for her Husband lost at sea" when Jack gets eaten by the Kraken he gets claimed by the sea, he's lost! And in AWE we see Liz on an adventure to search for Jack (husband) who was lost at sea!!! I MEAN HOW MUCH MORE OBVIOUS CAN THEY MAKE IT THAT LIZ AND JACK BELONG TOGETHER!!!
*sigh* Oh the possiblities they could have had with SPARRABETH!!
Originally posted by PirateDiva
Ya that whole "Women Widowed Before her Marriage" thing is always what killed me too!!I mean like they said how can a women be widowed b4 even getting married....it does only mean that she had to have been married b4 and lost a husband, b4 remarrying! Which only makes me believe that our theory about the Jack and Liz Kiss at the end of DMC resembling an alter and them getting married is true!
Jack and Liz did marry, cause hey Jack is a Captain and can do that...they kissed and she left him to his death, thus resulting in the death of her 1st husband! So by the time she married Will she was already widowed!
Will didnt die until after they married, so the quote couldnt have been reffering to them!
and then the "Searching for her Husband lost at sea" when Jack gets eaten by the Kraken he gets claimed by the sea, he's lost! And in AWE we see Liz on an adventure to search for Jack (husband) who was lost at sea!!! I MEAN HOW MUCH MORE OBVIOUS CAN THEY MAKE IT THAT LIZ AND JACK BELONG TOGETHER!!!
*sigh* Oh the possiblities they could have had with SPARRABETH!!
wait.. they got married?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm suddenly and utterly confused.
but, about the possibilities, *sigh* so true.
i was once an optimistic sparrabether....but i think i have turned into a bitter one....
I mean, thousands of people CAN'T be wrong!
hell, even the critics in the papers were asking where the 'love triangle' had gone !!!!!!
Im guessing that something went on...
To me, i dont blame the writers. Some kind of discussion obviously went on concerning sparrabeth...i actually think that the writers WANTED sparrabeth, but the higher powers decided that it wasnt to be...
theres something fishy about it...some kind of intentional saboutage... im sure of it....
siiiiiiiiigh! I see wwhat you guys mean. Diva...I agree. Symbolically speaking you could say the kiss was marriage, then death and then she went off looking for him. But at first(before AWE) I always thought it was loosely referring to WE and how Will would nearly die (widowed before her marriage) but would eventually stab the heart. With the way things turned out though I know it was talking about Jack.
Anyway I took the pics of the JE parts but they're too blurry. I almost have all of them memorized though so here:
(when they first meet at the locker)
"Where you killed by the kraken? Or something else? Something painful I hope."
(I will spear u the uninteresting details ok?)
Ignoring his sarcastic welcome, Elizabeth ran up to Jack and threw her arms around him, hugging him hard.
"I'm so sorry," Elizabeth said in a low voice to Jack. "So gad you're all right-"
"Contrition!" said Jack, not returning her embrace or accepting her apology. "very becoming on you. Are you an aspect of my sun-addled brain?" he picked her up and shook her.
"No." Then seeing Tia Dalma, he dropped a stunned Elizabeth and stepped forward.
I those of you who had the first novel already read this but I just thought I'd type up all the deleted sparrabeth moments whether they're only in the full version or not.
Next: when Jack says "we're not back yet." he touches her shoulder. And when Tia Dalma tells them that Elizabeth shouldn't leave the ship. Will and Jack BOTH run to stop her but Will gets to her first.
and also: (parley scene) "Don't be bashful! Step up and claim your reward." he tossed the compass to Jack, who caught it, looking guilty.
"And what reward does such chicanery fetch these days?" Barbossa wanted to know.
Beckett pointed at Elizabet, knowing what impact his statement would make. "Her," he said.
Will was shocked. (were you whelp? When AREN'T you surprised?) Was it true? Had Jack been playing him as well, with his offer to kill Davy Jones? Was it all an elaborate ruse...so that Jack could steal off with Elizabeth? (Oh I wish! So does half the population. Apparently escaping nassau without firing a shot was easy but he can't kidnap a bloody girl!)
Beckett went on relishing the revelation.
"When the cannon smoke clears and the brethren are slaughtered, off he sails on the Pearl, Elizabeth in his arms, and the blame dead square upon his rival." He flicked his finger toward Will.
Everyone considered this. Will was shaken, he wasn't sure what to believe. Jack was so untrustworthy, it was easy to picture him betraying them all that way. But it was also possible that Jack had been misleading Beckett.
Elizabeth was also confused. What would Jack want with her? (I don't want to answer that question) The Pearl she understood, but to take her as well? It did not make sense. (for some reason that is lost upon me he really wants you.)
Jack sighed as if displeased that Beckett had blown his cover.
"Even if that was my plan, he said, "and I'm not admitting to anything-there's not a tinker's chance of it coming off anymore." he glanced at elizabeth and leaned closer to her. "Is there? he asked.
(after a bit blabbering Elizabeth realizes Jack and Will's plan and offers th trade)
There's only one added line in the trade:
"Elizabeth ,love, you're condemning me." Jack said. "Again!"
This isn't JE but it's interesting:
Jack drew his own sword. "I can set you free Jones."
"Have you never loved Jack? My freedom was forfeit long ago."
One of my favorites:
(after Jones stabs Will)
Jack struggled to figure out what to do. He looked down at Will, then at Elizabeth , then at the heart, then back to Will, and finally back to Elizabeth. Rain streamed down her face, combining with her tears. Looking up at him, she uttered one single word, "Please."
And the last bit:
Elizabeth had no idea what the future held for her or Will. Nor did she know what would become of the brethren court, barbossa and most important, Captain Jack Sparrow.
And that my friend is the sad ending to this sad little tale.
Originally posted by lovethemtigers
the end of that novel..just makes me sad and angry...especially where it says Elizabeth's heart would always belong to another and his would always belong to the Pearl!ugghhhh
I've looked and looked for that novel but have yet to find it. Sometimes I wondered if it really exixts....can you scan the cover and show me what it looks like??? Where did you get your copy?
Unfortunately I don't have it either. I've only read about it on KTTC forum and I have the quote from the ending, that you wrote, on my mind. Elizabeth's heart would always belong to Will... It's so sad. 🙁
Fortunately tee_pirategirl wrote the most interesting quotes from the novel. Thank you tee_pirategirl 🙂
I'm very anxious for the dvd with the writer's commentary. Everything that is left in movies is a conscious choice, and if they cut the triangle out due to time constraints, yeah, that's sloppy, but forgivable. If they cut the triangle due to realizing they had dug themselves into a hole with it or something like that, then I want to know. I mean, I've always wondered why even open that up? Isn't it possible for a man and a woman to be friends without being romantically confused by it? I work with a bunch of guys and because of long hours and going through the same problems, we usually come to love each other like brother and sister. But I'm completely IN love with my husband. So why in the world open up a triangle if you know you're not going to do anything with it? Willabeth I can handle, but give me an explanation for why sparrabeth was soaring and then plopped back in the water.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=KB4T-ouM9sg
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