Originally posted by Raoul
yeesh...though if i hear the words 'kryptonite lightning' there'll be trouble...
Oh, it's even better! Storm has "magical lightning." 🙄 And apparently Supes is vulnerable to magic AND lightning. Sometimes, I wonder why I bother 🙂
I think ultimately we all just need to do is just accept that Storm is Skyfather level and will eventually control all of the forces in the universe. She's THAT uber 😉
Originally posted by Sasaraixx
Oh, it's even better! Storm has "magical lightning." 🙄 And apparently Supes is vulnerable to magic AND lightning. Sometimes, I wonder why I bother 🙂I think ultimately we all just need to do is just accept that Storm is Skyfather level and will eventually control all of the forces in the universe. She's THAT uber 😉
yeah, cos he's never been hit by lightning before... ermm
Originally posted by Sasaraixx
Oh, it's even better! Storm has "magical lightning." 🙄 And apparently Supes is vulnerable to magic AND lightning. Sometimes, I wonder why I bother 🙂I think ultimately we all just need to do is just accept that Storm is Skyfather level and will eventually control all of the forces in the universe. She's THAT uber 😉
Yet Magneto isnt even though he controls the very element of the earth itself?
Originally posted by Silent Master
I never did understand Rutog, I mean in the very issue he uses to "prove" that Storm = Dark Phoenix in power, Claremont had Storm admit that Thor was >> her in power.He also wrote Thor laughing off Storm's attacks and then kissing her until she passed out.
This is not true at all.
I posted this as an answer to a different question a while back and included the Storm/Thor thing in it.
Somebody also asked me why Storm sometimes struggles to dispel a hurricane?
Here is the answer to that question:
That is because she holds herself back especially when working in a planatary atmosphere. When she went "punk", she let go of some her "blocks" and things that were difficult for her when she was "gentle" became much easier owing to her lack of restraint.
This is why when she was Rougestorm, she had such a difficult time stopping that storm she created. Colossus has brought her back to her moral core and she was working within those boundaries when she was trying to disperse that storm that she created as Rougestomr. She would not allow herself to ride roughshod over it. She forced herself to gently disperse it. She does this for the sake of the ecosystem. (However, sometimes she just speaks directly to the storm and commands it to disperse and it does instantly. lol)
Thor, on the other hand, does not have to be so cautious as his hammer does all the work and he does not. All he has to do is tap his hammer the prerequisite time or just will the hammer to do it and that little dohickey does it all.
Now, I did not say this, but there are stories where Ororo alters weather on a HUGE scale. For instance, even before she joined the X-Men, she dispersed a hemisphere-sized hurricane in "X-Men: The Hidden Years issue 7." She has altered weather on a continental scale more than once and globally as well.
Storm is reluctant to impose her will on natural hurricanes since that is the natural order of things. She could disperse them, of course, but it could trigger an equally devistating disaster.
In regards to the COC2 fight between Ororo and Thor, neither was going to beat the other with direct weather attacks. Thor has other abilities though like super strength, etc. That said, Storm definately has better fine tune control over the elements and she's much more resourceful with them. In Black Panther 25, she temporarily knocked out the clone of Thor with an EMP to the brain. She's also able to do things like control the elements in a person's body. I have not seen Thor do that. She can definately hurt him by using her powers creatively. He can hurt her by using non-weather attacks as she's immune to the elements.
Originally posted by Silent Master
How many times does it have to be pointed out to you that her comment about running roughshod over the weather was referring to Thor, seriously; take a reading comprehension course and then reread the story.
First off, Claremont has stated on the internet in posts that Storm's power over the elements is every bit as strong as Thor's. The difference is "Thor only has to tap his hammer the prerequisite amount of times while Storm actually works with the elements herself." His words.
The riding roughshod over the elements was about her, not him. "If I were the Avenger Thor, I could end this storm with a thought, but I must work with the elements, not ride roughshod over them." Thor's hammer creates weather thus he doesn't even really have to warp the existing ecosystem as he can just create his own storm system from his hammer. This means Ororo has to be more careful than Thor as she runs the risk of really upsetting the ecosystem much more than he. She can ride roughshod over the elements as we saw in the scan I provided when she went punk and had less inhabitions, she merely chooses not to.
For the record, at the time she made that "roughshod" comment, she was rejecting ultimate power. She was denying her Roguestorm self and was working with the elements gently. This was not her Roguestorm self dispelling the maelstrom, but Storm, tempered by humanity, trying to assert herself over her near-infinitely powerful Roguestorm self trying to disperse the storm. Remember, Colossus' words brought this humanity back to the surface of Ororo's psyche. It was only then that human Ororo began to try and assert herself over Roguestorm Ororo and worked with the elements with restraint to dispel the Storm.
For those of you just browsing the thread, here are the scans of the issue in question:
Now put this with the scans I did above in the previous post.
