Originally posted by Thorin
You all people are pretty a shame, you are a shameful country, you US, indeed!!!!.(I wonder why I came here to this forum, this is horrible)
You are worst perhaps than German Nazis, because you proclaim to be the otherwise.
What a shame, shame shame.
can you please post a pic of your anus?
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Given the option, under the assumption that it would be feasible, would you support the expulsion of all illegal immigrants from the United States of America?
I think its more of a case by case instance. If they are working hard and willing to become citizens or register with the US or whatever then I don't feel it would be a wise choice to kick them out. However if they have a significant history of crime then they should go, also if they are just coming to the US illegally to work and bring back US dollars to Mexico then they should be kicked out as well.
Can you substantiate that currently illegal immigrants living in the U.S. result in more fiscal cost than benefit overall?
I can post up numbers from any number of different sources certainly.
However common sense would tell me alone that any large group of people living in the USA without paying tax's and any sort of accountability will not significantly benefit the society or even give a break even with the society.
Illegal immigrants depress wages for low-skills labour. But the overall economic effect is estimated to be a slight net gain in GDP.
While legalizing the status of those "working hard and willing to become citizens", presumably they would then need to be employed under the same minimum wage statutes. In which case one should be willing to accept inflationary effect on goods and services.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Illegal immigrants depress wages for low-skills labour. But the overall economic effect is estimated to be a slight net gain in GDP.
While legalizing the status of those "working hard and willing to become citizens", presumably they would then need to be employed under the same minimum wage statutes. In which case one should be willing to accept inflationary effect on goods and services.
The reality is that they are going to be in a state of "welfare" as well as typically have little to no education so they will add a cost factor in as much as their 6.5$ wage would ever add to the economy.
Lets be real about the pro's and con's about the immigrants.
Originally posted by Thorin
You all people are pretty a shame, you are a shameful country, you US, indeed!!!!.(I wonder why I came here to this forum, this is horrible)
You are worst perhaps than German Nazis, because you proclaim to be the otherwise.
What a shame, shame shame.
"All your base are belong to us!"
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I'm not trying to pigeonhole anything. I'm just clarifying your position.Illegal immigration isn't a huge problem in my country considering it's a composed of islands. However if a huge preponderance of illegal immigrants were in my country, and they were contributing to the economy in the manner they do in the U.S. I believe it would be hypocrisy to deny that they should be granted some sort of amnesty.
There is certainly pros and cons to the issue at hand, but they also are criminals as defined by the law. You can argue that immigration law is horrible all you like, and claim sovereign nations and borders shouldn't exist, but immigration laws do exist and they exist for a good reason.
I haven't read every detail of the "Worker Program" and it seems like it would certainly be an "amnesty" of sorts, but it does sound like a decent idea where an even ground can be attained.