Why do you believe in the bible?

So? It doesn't deminish its presence. You still support the worlds largest and most bureaucratic religion.

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Tssk..... Mexicans.....

🙄 There is nothing wrong with Mexicans. They have a rich culture and a powerful heritage.

Is Urizen being racist again? Not that Quiero hasnt been either, but lets not expand the situation.

Originally posted by Alliance
So? It doesn't deminish its presence. You still support the worlds largest and most bureaucratic religion.

Religious orgs do not have a monopoly on charity. I'm not religious and I spend plent of my time and money volunteering through non-religious and religiosu organizations alike.

Charity would more than survive without religion.

True. 🙂

Originally posted by Alliance
Religious orgs do not have a monopoly on charity. I'm not religious and I spend plent of my time and money volunteering through non-religious and religiosu organizations alike.

Charity would more than survive without religion.

(That's Park Place & Boardwalk to you Americans)

Originally posted by Nellinator
How can you read your posts and not see your anger in there? Its evident in your tone and words.

Because I wrote it, that's kind of how I can tell. What you read into my posts are not my responsability.

Originally posted by Nellinator
I have never told you to believe what I believe, so why do you pretend that I have?

No, you're right, you've never said: "Captain Fantastic, believe what I tell you to believe or burn in hell!" But you don't have to. You say it all with your position.

Originally posted by Nellinator
Once again, I have never once said that you are going to hell, so get over your blind anger and open your eyes and see that.

My assumptions about your statements come from what you've said. It isn't a matter of misunderstanding what you wrote, it's a matter of having heard it all before. If you use the same arguments and logic as the rest of the hatemongers who were more obtuse in their condemnation, then there's no reason not to assume you don't believe, word for word, what you preach.

Originally posted by Nellinator
Or perhaps you aren't reading and can't see that I'm not being hypocritical?

The moment you rationalize your opinion with bible verse, you certainly are being hypocritical.

Originally posted by Nellinator
Very true. I agree with you.

And if your church has no beauracracy, how do you intend to help the poor and needy? (without paying taxes?)

Originally posted by §P0oONY
So they even own Park Lane and Mayfair? hmm

(That's Park Place & Boardwalk to you Americans)

Ah, but I've left three used condoms and a syringe filled with holy water and crack cocaine on those streets in my first go round. You owe me $4000. And that's even more costly for you folks across the pond, what with your "sound as a pound" attitudes.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
🙄 There is nothing wrong with Mexicans. They have a rich culture and a powerful heritage.

Shaky, wake up...im just kidding 🙄

I love Mexicans...i think the hottest man in the world is Mexican

google: Eduardo Verastegui

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
No, you're right, you've never said: "Captain Fantastic, believe what I tell you to believe or burn in hell!" But you don't have to. You say it all with your position.

My assumptions about your statements come from what you've said. It isn't a matter of misunderstanding what you wrote, it's a matter of having heard it all before. If you use the same arguments and logic as the rest of the hatemongers who were more obtuse in their condemnation, then there's no reason not to assume you don't believe, word for word, what you preach.

The moment you rationalize your opinion with bible verse, you certainly are being hypocritical.

And if your church has no beauracracy, how do you intend to help the poor and needy? (without paying taxes?)

You still think I hate...

Bureaucracy is different than volunteer supervisors of charities. I help the needy without a bureaucracy already, so I don't understand what your getting at.

Originally posted by Nellinator
I still have hope. Your fate is not determined until your last breath and potentially even post millenial. I think that there is a good chance you are not going to hell, I hope you understand that.

His chances of going to Hell are 0%

Hell doesn't exist.

Originally posted by Nellinator
You still think I hate...

No, I think you are misguided.

Originally posted by Nellinator
Bureaucracy is different than volunteer supervisors of charities. I help the needy without a bureaucracy already, so I don't understand what your getting at.

The homosexuals are needy people ? 🙄

I guess we forgot about the Homeless, the sick, and the starving....

I think you need to read further above because your last point seems a little off topic. The question wasn't about homosexuality. At least I don't think so.

Originally posted by Nellinator
I think you need to read further above because your last point seems a little off topic. The question wasn't about homosexuality. At least I don't think so.

I recall the two of you discussing Homosexual Reparative Therapy before...if that was in another thread than I apologize.

Please answer the rest of my quote....

😂 You already know my position on the first point. I'm not in the mood for circular arguments.

Of course you think I'm misguided. I think the same way of you. Isn't that what we all think of those that disagree with us?

We were talking about sponsoring charities and good works, not reparitive therapy. I don't put my money into reparative therapy.

Originally posted by Nellinator
Of course you think I'm misguided. I think the same way of you. Isn't that what we all think of those that disagree with us?

Originally posted by Nellinator
😂 You already know my position on the first point. I'm not in the mood for circular arguments.

Of course you think I'm misguided. I think the same way of you. Isn't that what we all think of those that disagree with us?

We were talking about sponsoring charities and good works, not reparitive therapy. I don't put my money into reparative therapy.

There's no such thing as Hell 😛

Yes there is...its a special place for unproductive people, double posters, and derailers.

Originally posted by Nellinator
Yah, but mainstream sucks.

Originally posted by Nellinator
I still have hope. Your fate is not determined until your last breath and potentially even post millenial. I think that there is a good chance you are not going to hell, I hope you understand that.

You still think I hate...

Bureaucracy is different than volunteer supervisors of charities. I help the needy without a bureaucracy already, so I don't understand what your getting at.

Exactly, according to christianity nothing is set in stone until that last breath is drawn. That's one of those loopholes built into the faith.

I don't care if you hate or not. Your divisive and condemning views inspire it in others. As long as you do nothing to stop others of your faith from acting in a fashion that directly contradicts the teachings of Jesus Christ, you are guilty of condoning their behavior.

Bureaucracy is of course different from a volunteer group. The bureaucracy isn't doing it for free. But the bureaucracy is the body that controls the money that you drop in that collection plate.