Thanos (Infinity Gauntlet) vs. Darkseid (Ant-Life Equation)

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The Ale itself was like a big dumb creature. It had lot's of power, but not lot's of brains. If someone like metron had the Full strength of that Ale's power, he would easily beat thanos with the IG.

Gibberish and fallacy mixed.

To begin with Metron himself said it was INTELLIGENT

When Metron ran out of the ALE's Realm, the ALE was so dumb it threw FOUR ASPECTS of itself after Metron to follow him into his Universe, because it KNEW in advance it could not survive in it's entirety in the EARTH Universe

NOW JUST the ASPECTS and their "stupidity"

The ASPECTS leave Metron alone and head off on some unknown mission

The MISSION:

"The ALE's Negative Polarity does NOT allow it to live in OUR Universe, but it's ASPECTS can"

"So"?

Hmm... It may be "dumb" but it figured that one out.

The FOUR ASPECTS go to FOUR specific Star Systems

WHY?

The "big dumb" ALE sent FOUR ASPECTS of itself to destroy the Milky Way Galaxy, in order to ALTER Physical Laws so it can enter the Universe

Hmm....pretty slick for a "big dumb creature"...

"HOW are these ASPECTS going to KILL our Galaxy?"

"Those FOUR Star Systems on the screen"

"KNOCK OUT any TWO of them and the Milky Way will COLLAPSE"

Not bad for a "big dumb creature" ey....

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
But since that ALE is NON cannon, we truly dont' know how powerful the ALE is.

Says WHO?

Originally posted by Galan777
I didnt say the ALE was weak, but it only took a few New Gods and Wizards to beat it. Yet not even Thanos /w/ THOTU could destroy Death, it actually took the better part of the Beyonder's power to permanently kill Death.

That why I think:
Death>ALE

Originally posted by Galan777
All very true, but not really what i meant.

If you would have said what you said before, then I would agree, but not just because he can't leave his realm.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The Ale itself was like a big dumb creature. It had lot's of power, but not lot's of brains. If someone like metron had the Full strength of that Ale's power, he would easily beat thanos with the IG.

More Proof that the ALE and even it's ASPECTS were REDICULOUSLY INTELLIGENT.

Now there were EIGHT Heroes, and TWO were assigned to each Star System.

John Stewart with his Green Lantern Ring is very confident, he leaves Martian Manhunter behind entrapped in a Bubble he made, because he felt Martian Manhunter was holding him back, poor cocky boy...

SURPRISE SURPRISE!

The "big dumb creature's" ASPECTS figured out his weakness WITHOUT even KNOWING it.

Advise,

READ COMICS! before posting rubbish

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Um did you read the part where I was talking about that particular instance of the ale. ANd how I was the first one that said this fight is inconclusive cuz no one knows what the ale can really do? or how about when I said that that book wasn't even cannon. So yeah, I don't think you know my thought process all that well. go re read EVERY think i wrote on the thread before just taking a piece of what I said and then making a judgement.

Please speak English.

Originally posted by bigbran
Yes, but that is not what you said before.

Originally posted by bigbran
If you would have said what you said before, then I would agree, but not just because he can't leave his realm.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
You mean like the scans that say the ALE is Billions of times more powerful than any one universe?

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Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Or how Darksied says that one drop of it's power is enough for him to control one universe?

He said a FRACTION, which could mean any amount of numbers, and that's correct, it was nothing more than a statement.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And since the IG was never shown on panel controlling multiple realities, we can't go by that can we?

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Well, I guess if you wanna include Hype level with power level, than yes, the ALE is VERY powerful.

However, if Darkseid could add hype level to all of his power levels, he wouldn't be pissed on all the time like DC does to him.

BOOM BASH baby...

Long enough to prevail!

"The threat of the ALE is forever ended"....."how"

"the bridging Dimension between our Reality and it's has been eradicated"

Originally posted by Priest
Prove that the ALE is multiversal in power.
The IG is proven to be multiversal in power.
IG showings >ALE

If the AE had power that existed in 2 or more dimensions/universes, it can be classified as "Multiversal".

Even if it did need a bridging universe to allow it into the DC Universe, it still had effect in 2 universes. Or more. Maybe there were special circumstances involved, which did not allow it to freely access other dimensions on it's own. Imprisonment, hiding, binding, etc. That does not mean that it would not be potent in other universes besides the 2.

Even after this arguement, I still believe the IG to be more powerful. The IG governed all laws of the universe.

Originally posted by Horrificus
If the AE had power that existed in 2 or more dimensions/universes, it can be classified as "Multiversal".

Even if it did need a bridging universe to allow it into the DC Universe, it still had effect in 2 universes. Or more. Maybe there were special circumstances involved, which did not allow it to freely access other dimensions on it's own. Imprisonment, hiding, binding, etc. That does not mean that it would not be potent in other universes besides the 2.

Only that the ALE did NOT affect Two Universes or more.

The FOUR ASPECTS that chased Metron back to his Universe took the form of individual beings, in two cases a Giant Robot and a Slime type thing.

But NONE of the ASPECTS had the power over a Planet or even a City Block for that matter, let alone a Universe.

Those scans I pumped where an ASPECT manages to destroy a Star System, was achieved with a bomb it constructed, it had nothing to do with it's own power.

Originally posted by Horrificus
Even after this arguement, I still believe the IG to be more powerful. The IG governed all laws of the universe.

No doubt.

That is why he is called MR. MASTER

HE OWNS ALL YA ASSES !

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
That is why he is called MR. MASTER

HE OWNS ALL YA ASSES !

thankyou

i think we can safely say (i hope!) that dc is indeed a multiverse. the ecruos was an entity that opposed the source (it was "the enemy of the source) and it was attempting to destroy all realities in an effort to wipe out the source. to do so it was killing the tree of knowledge at the nexxus of ALL realities. had it done so, it would have wiped out the dc multiverse. in that sense the ecruos was a multiversal destroyer.

guess what the only power capable of stopping and destroying it was . . .?

😖hifty:

Originally posted by Galan777
wow, so did you like, even read the scans?

Nothing on those scans makes me believe that the power of the IG is multiversal.

If it really was multiversal, there would be a s***load of scans where Thanos or Magus or Nebula are destroying universes, or creating them, or whatever.

Nothing like that. The entire IG battle was fought for one thing : the control of the 616 universe.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
Without a doubt I read them better than you did.

Nothing on those scans makes me believe that the power of the IG is multiversal.

If it really was multiversal, there would be a s***load of scans where Thanos or Magus or Nebula are destroying universes, or creating them, or whatever.

[b]Nothing like that. The entire IG battle was fought for one thing : the control of the 616 universe. [/B]

The IG was second to LT, a multiversal being. He wiped out all the abstracts, easily. In fact, the damn thing has done it, like 3 times.
Lets say, it can't affect multiple universes. It is still above any universal being, and second to LT. So how does not being multiversal take away from his power?
His power is still there, and since this is a forum battle, multiversal means nothing. The fact is, that the IG was able to take out any universal being it was up against, and Warlock was even going to challenge LT. LT had to determine if he truely had the power to beat him.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
Without a doubt I read them better than you did.

Nothing on those scans makes me believe that the power of the IG is multiversal.

If it really was multiversal, there would be a s***load of scans where Thanos or Magus or Nebula are destroying universes, or creating them, or whatever.

[b]Nothing like that. The entire IG battle was fought for one thing : the control of the 616 universe. [/B]

true

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
Without a doubt I read them better than you did.

Nothing on those scans makes me believe that the power of the IG is multiversal.

If it really was multiversal, there would be a s***load of scans where Thanos or Magus or Nebula are destroying universes, or creating them, or whatever.

[b]Nothing like that. The entire IG battle was fought for one thing : the control of the 616 universe. [/B]

i agree.

and bran, why wouldn't the IG have control in lt's world -- there were only abstracts there and we know he was above the abstracts . . .? and you said it was second to lt -- aside from hotu i presume -- but the starbrand was going to be used by erishkigal to wipe out the entire multiverse and lt didn't want to battle her because of possible ramifications. they each chose champions to fight with.

lt treated the starbrand similarly to how he treated the IG.

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
That is why he is called MR. MASTER

HE OWNS ALL YA ASSES !

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
That is why he is called MR. MASTER

HE OWNS ALL YA ASSES !

I like to think it's becuz many people like to hold his jock for him. And shake it after he gets thru peeing. But he's no where near my master and I am NEVER impressed with his scans and HIS interpretations of the events. No matter how many people tell him how great he is.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
Without a doubt I read them better than you did. [/B]

You might of read them, but you sure as heck could not discern them.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
Nothing on those scans makes me believe that the power of the IG is multiversal. [/B]

So Magus with an INCOMPLETE IG, WARPS the 616 Universe by MERGING it with ANOTHER UNIVERSE that his 5 Cosmic Containment Units created, from his UNIVERSE that was SEPARATED from both,

and you don't consider that Multiversal?

Mind you the IG was INCOMPLETE.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
If it really was multiversal, there would be a s***load of scans where Thanos or Magus or Nebula are destroying universes, or creating them, or whatever. [/B]

In Thanos's case he ONLY wanted ONE Universe.

And LT let him know he WOULD NOT Interfere, because Thanos ONLY WANTED ONE Universe

In Magus's case he had an INCOMPLETE IG, and STILL managed to CONTROL TWO UNIVERSES from a Universe SEPARATED from both.

Magus's lair was UNIVERSES AWAY from 616 Universe

Doom&Kang find Magus's stronghold after what?

Breaking Through to the Desired Reality.

Magus remakes the 616 universe in his image from universes away, and MERGES the Universe created by the 5 CCU with 616

In Nebula's case, she smacked up the Abstracts with the exception of Eternity who was not there, and she probably would have gone further but she was thwarded by Warlock who physically ENTERED the IG because of his connection to the Soul Gem.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
[b]Nothing like that. The entire IG battle was fought for one thing : the control of the 616 universe. [/B]

Well I think I shed some light on this misinterpretation.