Ancient Yautja (Predator) embarks on the Ultimate Hunting Expedition!

Originally posted by Metalmanx
And this is not just Spider-Man, it's Spider-Man fighting at his absolute best. Not dicking around and joking with his opponent. It's him using all of his skills and abilities to their very fullest.

A Predator can case down speeding cars so Spiserman isn't much faster.

A Pred's Armor can withstand punches from Spiderman while Spiderman can't really get hit once at all.

A Predator is so far ahead of Spiderman in skill it isn't even funny and Elder Pred makes Spiderman look he is baby in hi motions.

An Elder Pred has much better long range weapons than Spidey that would destroy Spiderman straight up.

An Elder Pred using all of his skill and weapons is pretty hard to take down if you think about it.

Does ANYBODY have pics to SHOW that a Predator alien
is anywhere near Spiderman in strength?

All I'm hearing is a lot of conjecture about how skilled they are
yet there have been HUMANS who have put up a fight.

Let's SEE some pics.

we need CMaster, he knows tons about Preds

Originally posted by Newjak
I understand that but a Pred is probably around a 5 tonner (taking both highs and lows into account) so he isn't super outclassed in strength

A Predator can case down speeding cars so Spiserman isn't much faster.

A Pred's Armor can withstand punches from Spiderman while Spiderman can't really get hit once at all.

A Predator is so far ahead of Spiderman in skill it isn't even funny and Elder Pred makes Spiderman look he is baby in hi motions.

An Elder Pred has much better long range weapons than Spidey that would destroy Spiderman straight up.

An Elder Pred using all of his skill and weapons is pretty hard to take down if you think about it.

And see, this is where a lot of people get me wrong. I DO know that an Ancient Predator is a force to be reckoned with. I know it's extremely skilled and powerful. You'll find that I won't ever doubt that of any Predator, especially an Ancient one. Hell, I think a single Ancient Predator would destroy Wolverine. 😬

However, I just feel that Spider-Man's abilities give him more than enough advantages over this opponent.

Originally posted by masterbruce
http://www.geocities.com/theyautjahuntinglair/home.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predator_(alien)

The best and most experienced Ancient/Elder Yautja decides to test himself by collecting the trophies of the most formidable warriors.

ANCIENTS/ELDERS: The greatest Yautja that have ever lived, they have survived a thousand hunts. These represent less than 1% of the entire population.
Weapons: Upgraded Wristblades, Combistick, Smart Disc, Net Gun, Plasmacaster
Equipment: Hunting Mask, Hunting Mesh, Cloaking Device, Medikit

The Ultimate Prey List:

1. Batman
2. Captain America
3. Wolverine
4. Spiderman
5. Venom
6. Colossus
7. Iron Man
8. Savage Hulk
9. Thor

Can the Ancient Yautja succeed on his hunt?

1. Batman was barely able to beat a rookie Predator, so I doubt that he'd last much longer against an elder pred.
2. Captain America...hmmmm. the only thing Cap has going for him is his shield...and that's if he can see his enemy.
2. Wolverine......well he might last a little bit longer, but unless he gets a sudden burst of spider sense, he'll go down too.
3. Spiderman...well this is a toughie. BUT I just can't see Spidey beating a elder pred. Sorry spidey fans, I love him too.
4. now here's a tough battle. Venom vs Predator. I can't see any of pred's weapons, other than the blaster, doing much to venom, but at the same time, how is venom gonna find him? I see Predator beating Venom by a slight margin just because of his heat sight & the fact that Predator can sneak up on Venom from behind. (venom has no spider sense.)
5. Predator because I dont see Colossus beating Predator unless it's a fist fight. even then Predator might win.
6. Wow....somebody should make this comic lol. Iron Man vs Predator. Both have heat sensors, I'm sure that Iron man can turn invisible if he has his cloaking armor. Unless Predator is able to jump on his back and tear Iron Man's suit to smitherines, Iron man would win this one.
7. Savage hulk would just swatt away Predator whenever he attacks lol.
8. Thor....well I don't think you can kill thor can you?

Originally posted by Metalmanx
And see, this is where a lot of people get me wrong. I DO know that an Ancient Predator is a force to be reckoned with. I know it's extremely skilled and powerful. You'll find that I won't ever doubt that of any Predator, especially an Ancient one. Hell, I think a single Ancient Predator would destroy Wolverine. 😬

However, I just feel that Spider-Man's abilities give him more than enough advantages over this opponent.

I say the Yautja makes it to 5. As for Pred showings, I really think we need a pred respect thread. I have a good number of DH Predator books, but I don't have a working scanner.

I'd put the average pred at about 5 tons (already mentioned), and the strongest topping somewhere around 60 tons (due to tank lifting feats).

Spidey will obviously be the toughest fight, but both at peak performance, the only advantage on spideys side will be his precog and reflexes. If the Elder connects once, it's game over for spiderman. This is much like the Wolverine vs Spiderman fight (ass-kicking), except this will be like Wolverine with a good shot of winning. Around Class 50 Strength, a Batman amount of gadgets, cloaking, and enough long-range firepower and accuracy to make Punisher jealous. However, if he beats spiderman, I don't think there's anything he can do (except maybe some tech) to beat Venom.

Ooo...Elder Yautja with a Symbiote?

Originally posted by Newjak
In reality Spidey only has two real advantages in Strength and Agility while I think that the Elder has at least 4 good advantages.

I disagree. Along with the strength and agility, Peter is arguably faster, has faster reflexes, has PRECOG, has webbing that could completely incapacitate any Predator (Elder or not), and Stingers that can cause quite a bit of damage.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
I disagree. Along with the strength and agility, Peter is arguably faster, has faster reflexes, has PRECOG, has webbing that could completely incapacitate any Predator (Elder or not), and Stingers that can cause quite a bit of damage.

the webbing would be useless against an elder Pred

the best elder pred can lift over 60 tons, he can def break webbing

Originally posted by masterbruce
the webbing would be useless against an elder Pred

the best elder pred can lift over 60 tons, he can def break webbing

You only said the best. The best isn't necessarily stronger than the strongest Predator we've ever seen. Just better. Be more descriptive. Do you mean this predator has the strength of the strongest predator, the speed of the fastest, the skill of the most skilled, and etc.? Or just the BEST hunter we've ever seen on panel?

Originally posted by Soljer
You only said the best. The best isn't necessarily stronger than the strongest Predator we've ever seen. Just better. Be more descriptive. Do you mean this predator has the strength of the strongest predator, the speed of the fastest, the skill of the most skilled, and etc.? Or just the BEST hunter we've ever seen on panel?

That was confusing me as well.

If it IS an amalgamation of the best predator's ever, then he will still lose at Venom.

Originally posted by Soljer
If it IS an amalgamation of the best predator's ever, then he will still lose at Venom.

yes, this is the best predator in all attributes. I felt it would've been redundant to say the fastest, smartest, strongest, most experienced, most agile, etc etc

Originally posted by masterbruce
yes, this is the best predator in all attributes. I felt it would've been redundant to say the fastest, smartest, strongest, most experienced, most agile, etc etc

Well, we've never seen on panel a 'best' predator.

There could be a predator that is weaker than the tank-lifter, but who is a far better hunter.

Which one is the better predator?

Hence, I (and it seems not only I) needed clarification upon what you meant. You meant a theoretical, yet-unseen predator who could emualte any of the feats we've seen on panel thus far.

Originally posted by masterbruce
yes, this is the best predator in all attributes. I felt it would've been redundant to say the fastest, smartest, strongest, most experienced, most agile, etc etc

You really could've been much more clear about it from the beginning.

However, my opinion on the match remains the same.

You say the webbing won't affect him, I say it's held much stronger before and not broken.

And I believe having a spider-sense, superior speed/agility/reflexes, in combination with his webbing, will give Spidey the victory, even against this amalgamation of a Predator.

Amalgamation, 😉.

And I'll say the amalgamate gets to Venom and stops.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
You really could've been much more clear about it from the beginning.

However, my opinion on the match remains the same.

You say the webbing won't affect him, I say it's held much stronger before and not broken.

And I believe having a spider-sense, superior speed/agility/reflexes, in combination with his webbing, will give Spidey the victory, even against this amalgamation of a Predator.

Can someone PM CMaster and ask for his opinion? he knows the most about preds and he has a lot of credibility on this board. I think his answer might be that pred gets to Thor

Originally posted by masterbruce
Can someone PM CMaster and ask for his opinion? he knows the most about preds and he has a lot of credibility on this board. I think his answer might be that pred gets to Thor

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Yea. If C-Master was high. 🙄

Originally posted by Metalmanx
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Yea. If C-Master was high. 🙄

I've PMed him. hopefully he responds soon

Ok, Elder Predators definitely have what it takes to defeat Spiderman, they have the strength and agility (which isn't as high as Parker's) but the battle experience that gives them the edge. The problem with them is while they possess the equipment and skill to easily waste him, they are simply too proud to use these and will rather face him in h2h combat, like they do their other opponents. That puts them at an unecessary disadvantage. They can't break Spiderman's webbing, but Spiderman won't get out of every attack they do if it isn't h2h. Spiderman would definitely lose to an Elder Pred if it absolutely wanted to kill him for the sake of winning ( one has killed a Queen with it's bare hands), but if H2h there is of course the chance that Peter webs him up, without having to contend with his armor and strength.

They would however lose to Venom if they don't have the right technology. Venom's suit provides too much resistance otherwise.

I'm not sure he could do much to Colossus or Extremis Iron Man with his equipment though.