Originally posted by masterbruce
see, Metalmanx, I told you so 💃
(No offense to you at all, C-Master)
...So, because he says so, that makes it right?
I could bring someone in here right now that could say that Spider-Man can take out this hypothetical Predator. Wouldn't necessarily make it true.
I just wanted to point out your horrible debating skills. 🙄
But honestly? I do believe C-Master. Because he is knowledgable, is not biased, and actually READS COMICS.
So, yea. This crazy, hypothetical amalgamation of a Predator can take out Spidey. But, there's no way it could defeat Venom.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
...So, because he says so, that makes it right?
Not necessarily. But he knows more about both spiderman and predators than almost anyone else and is not a fanboy, therefore his opinion carries more weight.
If you bring someone unbiased and is knowledgeable about both characters and say that spiderman wins, then I will evaluate his argument and reconsider my position.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
(No offense to you at all, C-Master)...So, because he says so, that makes it right?
I could bring someone in here right now that could say that Spider-Man can take out this hypothetical Predator. Wouldn't necessarily make it true.
I just wanted to point out your horrible debating skills. 🙄
But honestly? I do believe C-Master. Because he is knowledgable, is not biased, and actually READS COMICS.
So, yea. This crazy, hypothetical amalgamation of a Predator can take out Spidey. But, there's no way it could defeat Venom.
Eh.. He does have a plasma canon. It shoots super heated plasma.. Isn't heat like Venom's second biggest weakness..? Don't tell me that Venom's symbiote has adapted to such temperatures...
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If we'd go by only the highest showings then I'd say Spider-man would win, but then I'd say there aren't many people who can beat him then.
If we'll go by average showings (Some bad, some good) then I'd say The Elder predator would take it.
IMO it's quite fair to say that most Predators are between 5 - 10 tonners and then there are some lot stronger. Usually they're portrayed as less than tank lifters.
Their speed has enabled them to dodge/block Alien attacks, bullets and such, but on the other hand, they have been tagged by mere humans.
IMO Durability easily goes for the Predator. I'll post some scans soon.
This is a very interesting fight. But I don't see him getting past Venom. Brock is too resourceful and too powerful to be defeated even by an elder. HOWEVER, IF THIS IS CURRENT VENOM, ELDER PRED. Gargan, despite having the venom symbiote, is still an idiot. I do see it beating Spidey. Colossus is dicey. Can the pred's weapons pierce his metal armor? If so, Colossus is going down. IM would a fight to remember, but ultimately Iron man would win.
Ok, Elder Predators definitely have what it takes to defeat Spiderman, they have the strength and agility (which isn't as high as Parker's) but the battle experience that gives them the edge. The problem with them is while they possess the equipment and skill to easily waste him, they are simply too proud to use these and will rather face him in h2h combat, like they do their other opponents. That puts them at an unecessary disadvantage. They can't break Spiderman's webbing, but Spiderman won't get out of every attack they do if it isn't h2h. Spiderman would definitely lose to an Elder Pred if it absolutely wanted to kill him for the sake of winning ( one has killed a Queen with it's bare hands), but if H2h there is of course the chance that Peter webs him up, without having to contend with his armor and strength.
They would however lose to Venom if they don't have the right technology. Venom's suit provides too much resistance otherwise.
I'm not sure he could do much to Colossus or Extremis Iron Man with his equipment though.
-C-Master