Originally posted by Horrificus
We must not be reading the same books. Logan kept saying he was gonna cut Danny to pieces, and he kept going for him with his claws. I think you are seeing him get hit in the face, and telling yourself that he must be letting IF do it. There is no evidence of it, and no statements saying it. When somebody uses that arguement, they usually have a statement or some evidence to prove it. They don't just blurt out "He is letting him do it!" like some kind of Terets-Stricken-loon! Logan smiling? Evidence? Dude, back then, Logan was always smiling during fights, and was written to be totally insane, not like how they write him today as the "Brooding Hero".
they don't have to blurt it out, they're giving the reader the benefit of the doubt to piece it together on their own, considering, oh i dunno.. ALL of the characters' other showings. logan saying he's going to cut someone doesn't imply he's using even 10 percent of his skill, speed or power.. he's sliced people up while doing the tango... LITERALLY.. saying he's going to cut danny to peices doesn't imply he wasn't holding back...
and yes smiling is a huge that he was taking that fight lightly.... you ever see what happens when wolverine actually gets mad?
when he can't hear the sounds of other human voices over his own howling? when his mind recedes to that of a killer berserker ape while fully capible of making complex battle strategies? he doesn't smile, he doesn't sit there talking to his opponent telling them they're wasting their time.
Originally posted by Horrificus
No evidence? It didn't happen. Period.
not period, that's exactly what happened.
Originally posted by Horrificus
I also did not see an "Utter Failure" in the Spiderman Fight.
he had prep, and homefield advantage, AND STILL got clobbered... that's pretty terrible failure if you ask me..
Originally posted by Horrificus
I have sen Logan KO Spidey, but not prove superior on a number of occassions. Again, I don't know what you are referring to. I have seen Spidey handle Logan on a number of occassions.
not in a fight you haven't.. in fights, logans scored a KO, scored a winning position in what spiderman HOPED was a stalemate, scored multiple hits on spidey and made him look like a chump, and dropped him with a kick to the nutsac... while ironfist has... lost..twice.. so much for that.
Originally posted by Horrificus
Wolverine beating shang chi, human sabretooth, and enhanced admantiumized version WITHOUT A DAMNED healing factor.
Don't care. Logan is a garbage character..
"boo-hoo, i don't like it, it didn't happen"
Originally posted by Horrificus
"wolverine was clearly holding back, you can't deny that unless you know jack shit about wolverine and what he's really like."
I have been reading Logan since he first showed up on the scene.
and yet you think he wasn't holding back there? 🤨
Originally posted by Horrificus
But, thanks for sounding like a big ass. "
says the man who has to resort to name calling. 🙄
"so basically your upset that the x-men are doing now what older
Originally posted by Horrificus
characters were doing comparatively in the past... pfffft... "
I'm saying that not every character should be writtent to be an instant winner. That is sucky writing, and it makes it hard to actually worry about the characters. The X-men were writtent o be underdogs that you rooted for. Not a bunch of "Omega/Gods".
they were all a bunch of inexperienced kids in the past, should they not grow stronger from getting older and more experienced with their powers?
Originally posted by Horrificus
The Old Man Cheated and used Poison? Wow! Against the guy that, now, can take hits from Cosmic Class characters, be disintegrated and "Heal" HAhahaha!, and is constantly described as being immune to ALL Toxins? Whatever.
he isn't immune to all toxins, where has that been stated? he's always had a pretty aweful weakness to poisions, the only time he showed otherwise was during his bone claw years when his HF was kicked into overdrive. but yeah, shingen DID use cheating and poision to beat logan not skill like you previously assumed.