Originally posted by starking
Why do you only focus on Seid's bad showings? You do know he's owned Superman several times, don't you? And since their's so much wrong with those showings, they easily fall under pis. Ds isn't a top tier villain and people don't seem to understand this. He has a ton of appearances, but you seem to want to focus your attention on one measly showing.
Originally posted by darthgoober
When were these "ownings" of Superman by DS? I'm always HEARING that DS has beat the shit out of Supes upwards of a dozen times, but I've never actually SEEN it. So what instances are you talking about, and what issue/arcs did they occur in so I can check them out for myself(unless you have actual scans of the event(s) that is)?
its in the respect thread on the first page of it i think
Originally posted by Kurash
its in the respect thread on the first page of it i think
Originally posted by darthgooberhttp://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid66/p43f271405bb78d83ae047fd1cf65a746/fbdd46ca.jpg
When were these "ownings" of Superman by DS? I'm always HEARING that DS has beat the shit out of Supes upwards of a dozen times, but I've never actually SEEN it. So what instances are you talking about, and what issue/arcs did they occur in so I can check them out for myself(unless you have actual scans of the event(s) that is)?
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid106/pe0fb5c86846dadf5ae802dc927a747fa/f9707780.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid100/p0b61009840e364c381c4570f49b851cb/f9e393e8.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid101/pe7eb0edfcf5e89329143d06d0d273a41/f9e2aa3c.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid100/p7954b6f052025cf483b7f5380a52af23/f9e3bbff.jpg
http://img353.imageshack.us/my.php?image=f9e5c182jpgorig8tb.jpg
Superman has trouble with the Cyborg.
http://img394.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fba9830cjpgorig3nz.jpg
This is what happens when Ds steps in.
http://img371.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cyborg3ik.jpg
Originally posted by starking
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid66/p43f271405bb78d83ae047fd1cf65a746/fbdd46ca.jpg
Originally posted by starking
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid106/pe0fb5c86846dadf5ae802dc927a747fa/f9707780.jpg
Originally posted by starking
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid100/p0b61009840e364c381c4570f49b851cb/f9e393e8.jpg
Originally posted by starking
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid101/pe7eb0edfcf5e89329143d06d0d273a41/f9e2aa3c.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid100/p7954b6f052025cf483b7f5380a52af23/f9e3bbff.jpg
Originally posted by starking
http://img353.imageshack.us/my.php?image=f9e5c182jpgorig8tb.jpg
Originally posted by starking
Superman has trouble with the Cyborg.
http://img394.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fba9830cjpgorig3nz.jpgThis is what happens when Ds steps in.
http://img371.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cyborg3ik.jpg
Come on now, I want to see these past instances of DS actually beating the shit out of Supes that I'm always hearing about, not instances of him being teleported away. Thor can BFR the Asgardian Destroyer, but that doesn't mean that Thor is necessarily more powerful...
Darth has so many valid points, but the fact still remains Darkseid was owned by Superman, and that puts him far below Tyrant, because Tyrant would never struggle to beat Superman, he could one shot him like he did to Gladiator, Surfer, and Beta Ray Bill. There is a huge gap to fill between these two. People thatcontinue to state Darkseid true form should prove it otherwise, they are just blowing hot air.
Even if Darkseid could beat Superman this is nothing that Tyrant could not do as well, but in Tyrants case he could slaughter 20 Supermen. Darkseid has trouble with one.
Originally posted by batdude123
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid66/p7c18e8b452cb9333381c18e72b82bc42/fbdd81d1.jpg
Originally posted by darthgoober
Isn't that scan from OWAW? I thought you said not to long ago that it was taken out of context or something like that?
People just usually took that instance as Darkseid pounding on Superman, and then their encounter was over.
When Superman regained his coherence a few pages later, he attacked Darkseid again but to pretty much no avail.
Then Superman had to use the Entropy Aegis armor to shield himself from the OE.
No question Darkseid looked superior in that instance.
Originally posted by batdude123
People just usually took that instance as Darkseid pounding on Superman, and then their encounter was over.When Superman regained his coherence a few pages later, he attacked Darkseid again but to pretty much no avail.
Then Superman had to use the Entropy Aegis armor to shield himself from the OE.
No question Darkseid looked superior in that instance.
read apokolips now. good read.
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Originally posted by batdude123
People just usually took that instance as Darkseid pounding on Superman, and then their encounter was over.When Superman regained his coherence a few pages later, he attacked Darkseid again but to pretty much no avail.
Then Superman had to use the Entropy Aegis armor to shield himself from the OE.
No question Darkseid looked superior in that instance.
Originally posted by batdude123
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid66/p7c18e8b452cb9333381c18e72b82bc42/fbdd81d1.jpg
This one is kind of suspect too considering that Supes just finished fighting tons of Imperiex drones and new god's just prior to his encounter.
He wasn't "fresh" to speak.
Why do people act like losing to Superman is a bad thing that definitively moves him down the ladder?
It's not that Darkseid is weak against top tiers, it's that Superman moves up and over that level when he needs to, as he always does.
Wonderwoman can't even beat up Furies[who would like less than flies against Darkseid], and Superman can put on Kryptonite, beat up Supergirl, and then Darkseid in back to back encounters.
Superman leagues UP, not the other way.
Superman isn't the best benchmark here by a longshot.
I see one guy claiming, Tyrant could stomp out 20 Supermen, well, I can definitivel say, just like he's beaten guys you feel are above Superman, Superman has beaten guys guys above Tyant.
Originally posted by Juntai
Why do people act like losing to Superman is a bad thing that definitively moves him down the ladder?
It's not that Darkseid is weak against top tiers, it's that Superman moves up and over that level when he needs to, as he always does.Wonderwoman can't even beat up Furies[who would like less than flies against Darkseid], and Superman can put on Kryptonite, beat up Supergirl, and then Darkseid in back to back encounters.
Superman leagues UP, not the other way.
Superman isn't the best benchmark here by a longshot.
I see one guy claiming, Tyrant could stomp out 20 Supermen, well, I can definitivel say, just like he's beaten guys you feel are above Superman, Superman has beaten guys guys above Tyant.
When o' when will they learn that...
