Sabretooth vs. Deadpool

Started by jinzin9 pages

Originally posted by Howard_Jones
Proof?

and what are you gonna do? Punch me over the internet? Save the insults for someone who would take you seriously.

EDIT: I was incorrect. It was five bullets. Four on the initial burst, and one more in the zoo.

Frank never reloaded the gun, so it wasn't a full mag.

what the hell are you talking about? insults? i didn't insult you? but I'm about to if you wanna keep throwing false accusations around....

and what do you mean proof? go read the comics, it's there clear as day.

Originally posted by jinzin
what the hell are you talking about? insults? i didn't insult you? but I'm about to if you wanna keep throwing false accusations around....

and what do you mean proof? go read the comics, it's there clear as day.

Quit making excuses and scan the comic.

I didn't say you insulted me. I said you threatened me. It was clear as day. What's the matter? Truth too far fetched for you?

Still, I ask, what the hell are you gonna do? It's obvious you're just some punk kid ranting on about Wolverine. You probably think he could take Superman.

Even onto the shooting topic, Deadpool is said to be a perfect shot. Not good, great, amazing, but a perfect shot. Not only that he is an excellent fighter, to the point of having gambit pay him off rather than fight him, because in fighting with him, you might as well commit suicide. Heres the quote

"The X-Man Gambit has such respect for Deadpool's fighting abilities that he once paid him off rather than risk battling him, admitting that fighting Deadpool is tantamount to suicide."

Deadpool takes the win on this, as said before.

Original Post:

Originally posted by jinzin
well for one, that was sabretooth before his upgrades from "bloodhunt", or his futrther upgrades from "weapon x". Second, it wasn't one bullet, it was a full clip, and sabretooth recovered decently fast.
Third, deadpool tried the same stunt in their fight and sabretooth just stood there waiting for the bullets to run out before gutting deadpool while making rude remarks.

Your reply

Originally posted by Howard_Jones
Quit making excuses and scan the comic.

I didn't say you insulted me. I said you threatened me. It was clear as day. What's the matter? Truth too far fetched for you?

Still, I ask, what the hell are you gonna do? It's obvious you're just some punk kid ranting on about Wolverine. You probably think he could take Superman.

Im not one to jump into an "argument" but honeslty, wheres the threat at? He simply corrected you, and it wasnt even hostile. Are we reading the same post?

Originally posted by Howard_Jones
Quit making excuses and scan the comic.

I didn't say you insulted me. I said you threatened me. It was clear as day. What's the matter? Truth too far fetched for you?

Still, I ask, what the hell are you gonna do? It's obvious you're just some punk kid ranting on about Wolverine. You probably think he could take Superman.

what excuses? there are no excuses made, I used to scan shit all the time when I had a scanner that worked... now I don't so unless you're gonna front the money to buy me one... besides everything you want me to scan is common knowledge. 😬
and you may not have directly said that I insulted you but you certainly implied it when you encouraged me to "save the insults".😐

Originally posted by StarsNeverFall7
Even onto the shooting topic, Deadpool is said to be a perfect shot. Not good, great, amazing, but a perfect shot. Not only that he is an excellent fighter, to the point of having gambit pay him off rather than fight him, because in fighting with him, you might as well commit suicide. Heres the quote

"The X-Man Gambit has such respect for Deadpool's fighting abilities that he once paid him off rather than risk battling him, admitting that fighting Deadpool is tantamount to suicide."

Deadpool takes the win on this, as said before.

deadpool wins because gambit's afraind of him? uhhh i'm pretty sure the same quote could easily apply to sabretooth.
and deadpool's aim is notoriously bad, he once had to aim right between his own eyes to spray rhino in the face with antman's canister.... he's probably a great shot in all seriousness (considering his feat of cutting a fly in half) but hardly perfect.

Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
Original Post:

Your reply

Im not one to jump into an "argument" but honeslty, wheres the threat at? He simply corrected you, and it wasnt even hostile. Are we reading the same post?

errrmm I was wondering the same thing..

thanks. it's nice to know it's not just me. 😕

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Oh, I said that wrong. I ment Wolverine hit him three times, one of which was fatal (or would out have been with a healing factor). One of the other three may have been fatal also depending on what Wolverine hit with his under the arm pit shot since there is an artery there and it is possible he could have punctured one of Pool's lungs.

I'm not sure those were fatal. The rips are pretty narrow. His claws really couldn't of gotten in that deep.

Also, I'm not even sure Deadpool was wounded to begin with. How much of that damage was caused on panel and how much of it is just for dramatic effect? On the left, he's got rips on both sides of his torso, in his right armpit, and on his chest. On the top right he's missing his armpit rip and his side rip and gains an elbow rip. In the middle right, you can't really tell because of the coloring. Maybe that's what color you turn when you tap the tailor force. At the bottom right, any rips that would be visible are missing.

That leads me to believe that most, if not all, of it was just for flash.

The words of his shooting ability wernt from my own mouth but quoted. The gambit quote was an example to show the extent of his fighting abilities. Heres the shooting quote

"Deadpool has excellent, believed by many to be perfect, aim (though not with any given object, like Bullseye), which was temporarily destroyed by the Black Swan"

As far as the Rhino comment, im pretty sure this is the instance your referring to, where he has his back to rhino and hits him dead in the face over his left shoulder, with antmans canister.

http://img465.imageshack.us/my.php?image=deadpool066195zm.jpg

Mentions between his eyes, but sprays the canister no where near it.

nowhere near it because his aim is "that bad"

where did that quote come from anyway?

Originally posted by StarsNeverFall7
The words of his shooting ability wernt from my own mouth but quoted. The gambit quote was an example to show the extent of his fighting abilities. Heres the shooting quote

"Deadpool has excellent, believed by many to be perfect, aim (though not with any given object, like Bullseye), which was temporarily destroyed by the Black Swan"

As far as the Rhino comment, im pretty sure this is the instance your referring to, where he has his back to rhino and hits him dead in the face over his left shoulder, with antmans canister.

http://img465.imageshack.us/my.php?image=deadpool066195zm.jpg

Mentions between his eyes, but sprays the canister no where near it.

😬

DP has been excluded as a suspect from crime investigations, simply because the assassin had excellent aim. The whole thing with Rhino is to show that, if DP closes his eyes, and aims between them, he's not going to hit anywhere near the spot between them. Because his aim is THAT BAD.

Deadpool having horrible aim?? where is this coming from

While Deadpool doesnt have any "accuracy feats"
it has never been implied that his aim is horible, rather the opposite
hes no bullseye, but definately marksman
i dont see where this poor shot stuff is coming from

I've actually heard that Deadpool has impeccable aim, but he lost it during the run of some comic due to the actions of another character.

I do believe he regained it, at some point, though.

Anyone who thinks Deadpool has good aim needs to read his story arc's fallowing the assasination of the 4 Winds (or was it 5?) and the first arc of Agent X.

I didnt create the characters abilities, im just saying whats been read. Hes supposed to have excellent marksmanship, if hes lost and regained it, then I guess his aim and Wolvies healing have more in common than we thought..

Originally posted by StarsNeverFall7
I didnt create the characters abilities, im just saying whats been read. Hes supposed to have excellent marksmanship, if hes lost and regained it, then I guess his aim and Wolvies healing have more in common than we thought..

Dude, you've taken a death grip on a comment some DP fan made when the edited Wikipedia. Deadpool doesn't have perfect aim. Deadpool doesn't have great aim. He has at best passable aim. It has been the foundation of no fewer then two Deadpool story arcs. It has how we knew that Deadpool didn't assassinate the Four Winds when he was taking credit for it and also the main reason we knew that Agent X and Wade were two separate people. With the relatively limited appearances of Deadpool there shouldn't be any confusion on this topic especially considering that a) this are recent (last 2-3 years) issues and b) and everyone claims they are Deadpool fans.

FYI you shouldn't rely Wikipedia information

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
Perhaps Wolverine got hits in first, but if you think about it, that proves nothing. You see that Deadpools fighting style in that fight basically involves and utilizes recklessness and personal injury, in order to obtain the win. This is clearly demonstrated when he uses his own body as bait before the final win. Obviously he was NOT fighting defensivley, and simply opening himself up for attack basically as a lure. On top of that, he was basically toying with Wolverine.

Do you honestly think that they would have fought in the exact same manner if DP has knowingly has his HF removed?

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
Perhaps Wolverine got hits in first, but if you think about it, that proves nothing. You see that Deadpools fighting style in that fight basically involves and utilizes recklessness and personal injury, in order to obtain the win. This is clearly demonstrated when he uses his own body as bait before the final win. Obviously he was NOT fighting defensivley, and simply opening himself up for attack basically as a lure. On top of that, he was basically toying with Wolverine.

Do you honestly think that they would have fought in the exact same manner if DP has knowingly has his HF removed?

Having the luxury of purposely taking a hit to expose and opening on your enemy is a massive advantage in any sort of melee combat. Even with out a healing factor if a normal person was willing to take a possible fatal attack to land one of their own they could easily over come someone far more skilled then they are. This is what Deadpool did, it wasn't a great or even impressive showing of skill, it was simply tactical fighting and it was bound to happen sooner or later. Even then Deadpool only landed his hit because a) his near instantaneous recovery time (a kick to the face like that from two people running full tilt towards each other would have easily killed a lesser man, severing this spinal cord) and b) Wolverine was mid-air leaving him self with literally zero options in evading.

And how did you get he was toying with Wolverine? Because he was making jokes?... Just how little DP experience to you have?

I suggest every one watch the final episode of Samurai Champloo to better understand what I was talking about with purposely taking a hit to expose a opening and counter attack.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
I'm not sure those were fatal. The rips are pretty narrow. His claws really couldn't of gotten in that deep.

Also, I'm not even sure Deadpool was wounded to begin with. How much of that damage was caused on panel and how much of it is just for dramatic effect? On the left, he's got rips on both sides of his torso, in his right armpit, and on his chest. On the top right he's missing his armpit rip and his side rip and gains an elbow rip. In the middle right, you can't really tell because of the coloring. Maybe that's what color you turn when you tap the tailor force. At the bottom right, any rips that would be visible are missing.

That leads me to believe that most, if not all, of it was just for flash.

True enough and it is hard to tell how much damage is cause with the simplistic and conservator art style but the claws would need to get in a good distance to tear away and hook strips of DP's costume on the fallow through.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Having the luxury of purposely taking a hit to expose and opening on your enemy is a massive advantage in any sort of melee combat. Even with out a healing factor if a normal person was willing to take a possible fatal attack to land one of their own they could easily over come someone far more skilled then they are. This is what Deadpool did, it wasn't a great or even impressive showing of skill, it was simply tactical fighting and it was bound to happen sooner or later. Even then Deadpool only landed his hit because a) his near instantaneous recovery time (a kick to the face like that from two people running full tilt towards each other would have easily killed a lesser man, severing this spinal cord) and b) Wolverine was mid-air leaving him self with literally zero options in evading.

And how did you get he was toying with Wolverine? Because he was making jokes?... Just how little DP experience to you have?

I suggest every one watch the final episode of Samurai Champloo to better understand what I was talking about with purposely taking a hit to expose a opening and counter attack.

No. Don't presume that just because DP fights by utilizing his abilities that he's not a talented fighter. He makes use of his HF by adopting a different fighting style. And, even if it does make combat easier for him, that proves nothing. Because, as far as I can tell, in your attempt to prove that Wolvy's a better fighter, you've only proven that DP has an easier time fighting Wolvy then someone without a HF. That proves nothing, at least nothing good for your arguments.

I can't believe I'm being lectured on how a HF = no skill by a WOlVERINE fanboy. 🙄

And, I said toying, because thats how it was described, when Wolverine was beaten.

And you stillhaven't answered my initial question. You seem to believe that if DP was knowledgebly fighting with an equaly weakened healing factor that he would have made all the same moves.

My question is:

Are you really that stupid?