Soldier gets life in rape of Iraqi girl and killings of family

Started by Kinneary4 pages

Originally posted by bogen
soldiers havnt changed in the slightest from the middle ages were if you landed in a foreign beach everything was up for grabs, the only thing thats changed is there more descrete about it now

What are you, 16? 17? Go back to high school and leave the war to those with pubic hair.

Originally posted by bogen
soldiers havnt changed in the slightest from the middle ages were if you landed in a foreign beach everything was up for grabs, the only thing thats changed is there more descrete about it now

I reckon psychologists would have an interesting view of the wording 'everything is up for grabs'.

Or English academics.

Originally posted by Strangelove
There needs to be more strict psychological testing for people trying to be in the army
Agreed... People need to face the fact that alot of the people serving in the army are bottom of the barrel of society or forced into service do to legal problems or just young deliquents sent off to serve at 18 and people wonder why shit like this happens. The sad thing is from alot of other reports alot more rapes have taken place just not to this magnitude which is why you don't hear about them sounds like vietnam all over again, But hey these colors don't run..

Originally posted by chris_64256
Agreed... People need to face the fact that alot of the people serving in the army are bottom of the barrel of society or forced into service do to legal problems or just young deliquents sent off to serve at 18 and people wonder why shit like this happens. The sad thing is from alot of other reports alot more rapes have taken place just not to this magnitude which is why you don't hear about them sounds like vietnam all over again, But hey these colors don't run..

What in the devil is wrong with you? You can't join the military anymore as an alternative to jail, and you have to have virtually no legal problems at all to get in. Before you start spouting off ignorant conclusions, at least make sure you're not ignorant about your facts.

Originally posted by Kinneary
What in the devil is wrong with you? You can't join the military anymore as an alternative to jail, and you have to have virtually no legal problems at all to get in. Before you start spouting off ignorant conclusions, at least make sure you're not ignorant about your facts.
You live in Japan right?

Yes.

Originally posted by Kinneary
What in the devil is wrong with you? You can't join the military anymore as an alternative to jail, and you have to have virtually no legal problems at all to get in. Before you start spouting off ignorant conclusions, at least make sure you're not ignorant about your facts.
I have relatives who have went through this process no more than 4 years ago as far as I know it holds true. My cousin had a sheet longer than both my arms was sent to juvie then through basic training at 18 and is still serving.. Now unless things have changed in the last four years I stand corrected but as far as the army's process murderers and rapist are not allowed due to the severity of the crimes anything below that they evaluate and make a decision on.

I have relatives who have went through this process no more than 4 years ago as far as I know it holds true.

Wrong. You cannot be sentenced to either military or jail time.

If this Iraqi girl was awhite girl , I guess the law will become more stright...

He deserve the DEATH ....

According to the Pentagon, waivers in 2001 totaled 7,640, increasing to 11,018 in 2005 . “Moral waivers” permit recruits with criminal records, emotional problems, and weak educational backgrounds to be taught how to use submachine guns and rocket launchers. Afterward, if they survive, they’ll be called heroes—and released back into society. (One ex-soldier praising the military for having “properly trained and hardened me” was Timothy McVeigh). read up on moral waivers:

http://usmilitary.about.com/od/marinejoin/l/blcriminal.htm

Here's a little something that might make a few people sick:

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/14/us/14private.html?ex=1310529600&en=c3752005f68cddbf&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

And the point of that was?

As I've said in SO MANY topics, do not associate all military personnel with the people you read about in the newspapers. We are just PEOPLE. The same as everyone else. I don't judge civilians by OJ Simpson, and I'd like it very much if you don't judge the military by Mr. Green.

Re: Soldier gets life in rape of Iraqi girl and killings of family

Originally posted by Vinny Valentine
"I hated Iraqis, your honor," Barker said. "They can smile at you, then shoot you in your face without even thinking about it."

Yeah the Iraqis, I wonder why they would shoot you in the face....you can smile at them, then invade their country, topple their government, kill their families, rape their teenage daughters and burn their bodies without even thinking about it.

This pig should die.

Re: Re: Soldier gets life in rape of Iraqi girl and killings of family

Originally posted by Mišt
Yeah the Iraqis, I wonder why they would shoot you in the face....you can smile at them, then invade their country, topple their government, kill their families, rape their teenage daughters and burn their bodies without even thinking about it.

This pig should die.

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You are completly Right 🙂

"Charging military personnel for murder during a war is like giving out speeding tickets at the Indy 500."

Originally posted by Mr. Sandman
"Charging military personnel for murder during a war is like giving out speeding tickets at the Indy 500."

Yep.

Originally posted by Fatima
If this Iraqi girl was awhite girl , I guess the law will become more stright...

He deserve the DEATH ....

Ugh... Did you read the story? He avoided the Death Penalty by cooperating and turning in the other men who were involved and were the ones who did actual shooting. Those men will most likely receive the death penalty. So stop trying to make this into a "race" issue with your "white girl" comments.

Originally posted by Mr. Sandman
"Charging military personnel for murder during a war is like giving out speeding tickets at the Indy 500."

Who said that? Because it is a stupid thing to say, there is a world of difference between a soldier shooting and killing another soldier/enemy during a time of war than a soldier raping and murdering a young girl.

Originally posted by Mr. Sandman
"Charging military personnel for murder during a war is like giving out speeding tickets at the Indy 500."
Originally posted by Robtard
Who said that? Because it is a stupid thing to say, there is a world of difference between a soldier shooting and killing another soldier/enemy during a time of war than a soldier raping and murdering a young girl.
Yeah 😬
Originally posted by Mišt
Yeah the Iraqis, I wonder why they would shoot you in the face....you can smile at them, then invade their country, topple their government, kill their families, rape their teenage daughters and burn their bodies without even thinking about it.

This pig should die.

Spot-on, there

War is hell on the country being invaded. Do we really know what happened over there? Was there a CIS investigation? Fingerprints? No. These men were thrown in the brig - guilty no chance. I find that disgusting.

Originally posted by Robtard
Who said that? Because it is a stupid thing to say, there is a world of difference between a soldier shooting and killing another soldier/enemy during a time of war than a soldier raping and murdering a young girl.

Technically, Michael Herr. The Vietnam Veteran who wrote the narration for Apocalypse Now, which is where the quote is said.