Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Darkseid easily. No one on that team can stop him.Ohhhhhh. I see what you're doing. This is the team that tried to take down Depowered Tyrant. Goober, Darkseid could take down Depowered Tyrant by himself. 🙂
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Yeah right.
Darkseid showed fear when he seen surfer and when he took surfer down he snuck him, he didnt want a face to face confrontation with the surfer. How in the hell would he even be a threat to tyrant when his best blast was laughed off by galactus (even though it was a crossover).
Tyrant would whip darkseid a** 10/10.
Now Superman vs Darkseid, Superman 7/10.
Havent you realized yet that darkseid is a has been. He might never be the character that you dream of him being again. Sorry for the hurtful info.
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Bloodlust? OE the whole lot ftw.They'd kick Thanos ass altogether bloodlusted however. 🙂
He omega affect one of them and the others gang up on him and beat his A**. Each on there team has enough power alone to stagger darkseid and them all together would overwhelm him. Im not doubting that he wouldnt take one with him because he would.
Gladiator have planet moving, planet destroying punches. Silver surfer has enough raw power to stand up to darkseid alone. Terrax, not including him much but he would be a good nuiscance. Beta ray bill has enough power to stand up alone and last a couple of minutes with darkseid. Morg is just a power house, you shouldnt even included him in this since the guy is almost unbeatable and is one of the strongest heralds of galactus. Jack of hearts, dont know much about him. Ganymede, hes a power house also.
All of them together would curbstomp darkseid.
Give the team 10/10 unless they stand there and let him shoot them.
Originally posted by carver9
He omega affect one of them and the others gang up on him and beat his A**. Each on there team has enough power alone to stagger darkseid and them all together would overwhelm him. Im not doubting that he wouldnt take one with him because he would.
What are you talking about? He can easily OE the whole lot. He's banished groups before effortlessly.
Originally posted by carver9
Gladiator have planet moving, planet destroying punches.
Flawed logic. Gladiator hasn't seen a decent feat in YEARS. He had problems with a tidal wave recently. Glads is near useless in this matchup.
Originally posted by carver9
Silver surfer has enough raw power to stand up to darkseid alone.
A good blast from SS did nothing to Thanos. Thanos punched him out in 3 shots easily. DS can easily do the same.
Originally posted by carver9
Terrax, not including him much but he would be a good nuiscance.
Agreed. Terrax is fodder.
Originally posted by carver9
Beta ray bill has enough power to stand up alone and last a couple of minutes with darkseid.
Now Bill is a fighter. He might be able to get a good hit.
Originally posted by carver9
Morg is just a power house, you shouldnt even included him in this since the guy is almost unbeatable and is one of the strongest heralds of galactus.
Morg is a decent brick. He get's pimpslaped like Kalibak.
Originally posted by carver9
Jack of hearts, dont know much about him. Ganymede, hes a power house also.
More Fodder.
Originally posted by carver9
All of them together would curbstomp darkseid.
Apparently not.
Originally posted by carver9
Give the team 10/10 unless they stand there and let him shoot them.
I could give the team some wins against most characters *Thanos and DS included* however..if they fight like they did against Tyrant...they lose.
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
What are you talking about? He can easily OE the whole lot. He's banished groups before effortlessly.Flawed logic. Gladiator hasn't seen a decent feat in YEARS. He had problems with a tidal wave recently. Glads is near useless in this matchup.
A good blast from SS did nothing to Thanos. Thanos punched him out in 3 shots easily. DS can easily do the same.
Agreed. Terrax is fodder.
Now Bill is a fighter. He might be able to get a good hit.
Morg is a decent brick. He get's pimpslaped like Kalibak.
More Fodder.
Apparently not.
I could give the team some wins against most characters *Thanos and DS included* however..if they fight like they did against Tyrant...they lose.
Full confidence gladiator is powerful enough to harm darkseid. I know that youre going to disagree with me on this but I consider gladiator (full confidence)>>superman. Gladiator will never be written as the way he should be since he is a villian. The same can be said for darkseid. He is getting his ass stomped by almost any high end character because he is a villian. I know what darkseid is capable of just like everyone else know but superman whips his butt on a regular basis. Im going by what marvel has said of gladiator and they said that he has enough power to move planets. He has enough strength to level a city and he destroyed planets with his fist, has the highest speeding record from the 90's on up. Also when he put his mind to it he can do almost anything and nova called him one of the most powerful beings in the universe.
Who said that that was a good blast from surfer. I have seen surfer make thanos stagger. Surfer has enough power to put darkseid down, even thanos.
The thing about bill is that if its possible that his hammer can absorb the oe than they will truly win this battle.
Like I said before, morg is a powerhouse and he dont need to be put in this battle. He would overwhelm the odds. Darkseid vs morg, I give morg 4/10.
Its also very bad to compare tyrant to darkseid since tyrant>>>>darkseid.
Originally posted by carver9
Full confidence gladiator is powerful enough to harm darkseid. I know that youre going to disagree with me on this but I consider gladiator (full confidence)>>superman. Gladiator will never be written as the way he should be since he is a villian. The same can be said for darkseid. He is getting his ass stomped by almost any high end character because he is a villian. I know what darkseid is capable of just like everyone else know but superman whips his butt on a regular basis. Im going by what marvel has said of gladiator and they said that he has enough power to move planets. He has enough strength to level a city and he destroyed planets with his fist, has the highest speeding record from the 90's on up. Also when he put his mind to it he can do almost anything and nova called him one of the most powerful beings in the universe.
Glads is a loser. You can debate that all you want...but that's the way it is. He started with promise..but that is long gone. Superman>>>>>>>>>>>Gladiator....Hell..Sentry>>>>>>Glads.
Originally posted by carver9
Who said that that was a good blast from surfer. I have seen surfer make thanos stagger. Surfer has enough power to put darkseid down, even thanos.
He looked pretty annoyed to me. Either way...a pimpslap should take care of SS...that or the full spectrum OE.
Originally posted by carver9
The thing about bill is that if its possible that his hammer can absorb the oe than they will truly win this battle.
That's a big "if"...I see the OE erasing him...like many other gods.
Originally posted by carver9
Like I said before, morg is a powerhouse and he dont need to be put in this battle. He would overwhelm the odds. Darkseid vs morg, I give morg 4/10.
Morg would be an annoyance to DS..nothing more.
Originally posted by carver9
Its also very bad to compare tyrant to darkseid since tyrant>>>>darkseid.
Tyrant didn't automatically destroy Thanos. He has no feats to compare to DS in his depowered mode.
See the problem is that people still think that Darkseid is as powerful as he was back in the day when he could casually take down PC Superman-he isn't.
The fact is yes, Gladiator is incredibly powerful. He's survived supernovas, physically destroyed planets because they were simply in his way, and can fly around 100x the speed of light at a minimum. I think he's also in the past broken Hyperions neck. There is no doubt that he basically has an identical powerset to current Superman except his stats are all much higher. Superman currently is a moon mover while Glads moves planets, supes moves at the speed of light while glads moves at 100 times that.
Gladiator would beat Darkseid. He is stronger and much faster. Think about that. Not only is darkseid going to be getting hit with enough force to crush planets, but lets add the speed on top of that. We've seen what speed can do, we've seen the flash KO white martians by running at them at incredibly speeds and hitting them so hard they fly into orbit. That is just the result of getting hit by something traveling at or near the speed of light. Now, take that type of strength and also stack on Gladiators own planet destroying strength..and then think about what would happen if Gladiator and Silver Surfer(who has physically matched Terrax before, who can also destroy planets on pure strength) blitzed him at the same time with all their strength? If Darkseid is even alive after that, he sure as hell won't have much left in him.
and thats just 2 members from the team, after that Morg and Terrax can mop up whats left.
Originally posted by AvalonofthewindWhy is this?
however..if they fight like they did against Tyrant...they lose.
Unless they get an upgrade, I fail to see them doing any better against Tyrant... unless, these beings can stand up to Galactus, that is...
It's almost as if, they were written bad in that fight... which isn't the case.
Darkseid wouldn't stand a chance against an entire line-up like that. Ye there are a few jobbers in there, but no light-weights to be sure. And as powerful as he is, there is no way he's as powerful as all the people assembled here combined. There is such a thing as strategy and tactics to consider. The power cosmic is a subtle and powerful tool, much more than the point and zap that has become the default these days. If you want bloodlust, take a look at the Silver Surfer from the recent Exiles story arc, he's tearing the galaxy apart by himself! That's Surfer WITHOUT restraint! Darkseid is HISTORY!
Honestly Trickster ? WHAT are you thinking here ?
Silver Surfer, Gladiator, Beta Rey Bill, Jack of Hearts, Morg, Terrax and Ganymede.
Silver Surfer is POWER incarnate, more than a match for anything Darkseid can throw at him.
Gladiator, as Marvel's in-house Superman he'd be able to knock Darkseid down and keep him down.
Beta Ray Bill can taken Thor to his limits, and he's a creature bred for WAR. He has the power and the skills to take it to Darkseid.
Between Terrax AND Morg, Darkseid wouldn't have a leg to stand on...literally. There are alot of things that can happen on the battlefield where all these titans are duking it out. Saying that Darkseid can beat them all is just well...unthinkable.