Kramer a Racist?

Started by lord xyz32 pages

Originally posted by Robtard
I've been gone and do not feel like reading through 4-5 pages... But I get the feeling that the final verdicts are:

1) Kramer is a racist
2) Anyone that doesn't think he is, is a racist by default
3) Racial jokes are funny as long as they are not "black" racial jokes

Did I miss anything?

No. 3 depends which country you're in. IN England we do not have "n gger" jokes, although we do have "paki" jokes, but they're just takin the piss out of their names.
Eg.
Q: What do you call a Paki with a black eye?
A: Ujabdya. {Oo-jabbed-ya} (Who jabbed you?)

Originally posted by Lord Evolution
4-5 pages....

I did skim through the pages, and my assumptions were right... People pretty much crying "Kramer said nig#er, and he's "white", so he has to be a racist"

Originally posted by darthsecretus30
Your such a piece of shit ..I'd love to smack the white right out off ya .. just for saying those things ya little *****

^^ racist. It's people like you that keep racism alive.

Originally posted by Robtard
I did skim through the pages, and my assumptions were right... People pretty much crying "Kramer said nig#er, and he's "white", so he has to be a racist"
KRAMER IS A RACIST

Originally posted by Robtard
I did skim through the pages, and my assumptions were right... People pretty much crying "Kramer said nig#er, and he's "white", so he has to be a racist"
n*gger 😐

Originally posted by Bardock42
Well, he got a point, my great, great, great grandfather had a slave (black obviously) and that guy just ran away one day. Was mid season too. My great, great, great grandfather had to pick his cotton all alone. Got a stroke. Died. My family hates black folks ever since.
😆

http://youtube.com/watch?v=BtuDR7Af7q8&mode=related&search=

Originally posted by Lord Evolution
You have had no sensible arguments, and I don't see how you can sit up here and defend a racist, unless you are one yourself 😕 which would make a lot of sense seeing as you have fought so hard to defend someone who is clearly guilty.
False dichotomy.

I'm curious about all this discussion. Who cares if he's a racist? He said what he said. Whether he's a racist or not, he said what he said. Many black people in the audience called him racist names as well. They said what they said. It all stands.

Now, you can either continue to enjoy his comedy, or ignore him for the rest of your life. Personally, I believe his career is over. But he's still funny.

And Kid Rock, oh my gentle Jesus, you're still here. I had hoped that if I went away for several months, and then came back, you would have disappeared. I have to wonder about someone who hides behind a false persona that someone else on this planet actually uses as a real public persona.

At least I made up my screen name.

CURSE THIS NON-DAIRY WHIPPED TOPPING!!!

corn

Originally posted by cornponious
I'm curious about all this discussion. Who cares if he's a racist? He said what he said. Whether he's a racist or not, he said what he said. Many black people in the audience called him racist names as well. They said what they said. It all stands.

Now, you can either continue to enjoy his comedy, or ignore him for the rest of your life. Personally, I believe his career is over. But he's still funny.

And Kid Rock, oh my gentle Jesus, you're still here. I had hoped that if I went away for several months, and then came back, you would have disappeared. I have to wonder about someone who hides behind a false persona that someone else on this planet actually uses as a real public persona.

At least I made up my screen name.

CURSE THIS NON-DAIRY WHIPPED TOPPING!!!

corn

How about you go away for a few more months..and when you get back maybe ill be gone. Hell, make it a full year.

Originally posted by corn to KidRock
I have to wonder about someone who hides behind a false persona that someone else on this planet actually uses as a real public persona.

cornponious is doing the exact same thing with his icon, gotta stay off the weed cornponious, it kills brain cells faster then the body can produce them.

Originally posted by Oncewhite
cornponious is doing the exact same thing with his icon, gotta stay off the weed cornponious, it kills brain cells faster then the body can produce them.

marijuana does not kill braincells. alcohol, however does...helium too...kills a shitload of em...so does teh intranets

Originally posted by PVS
marijuana does not kill braincells. alcohol, however does...helium too...kills a shitload of em...so does teh intranets
Research has actually shown that cannabinoids may actually be neuroprotective and prevent neurodegeneration in some disease models. However marijuana use has been linked to increased propensity for psychoses/schizophrenia.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Research has actually shown that cannabinoids may actually be neuroprotective and prevent neurodegeneration in some disease models. However marijuana use has been linked to increased propensity for psychoses/schizophrenia.

Yeah, so you end up creative and smart, yet crazy...

Well, I knew a couple of pot heads, and they seemed to be the most absent minded (even when they weren't high) 😕

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Research has actually shown that cannabinoids may actually be neuroprotective and prevent neurodegeneration in some disease models. However marijuana use has been linked to increased propensity for psychoses/schizophrenia.

i heard that as well
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20051014/marijuana_study_051014/20051014?hub=Health
and as for the rest, i guess a simple rule would be if you're insane, you shouldnt smoke weed.

I always liked Kramer......Well, next to Elaine that is.

ELAINE IS A RACIST!!!!1

I think the bottom line to all of this is that he simply should not have EVER gotten into stand-up.

1) If he is a racist, he should have not gotten into standup because at some point, in the heat of the moment, he could have let it slip out during his act. It's hard to be a public speaker and have your audience behind you and not get caught up in what you're saying and begin to elaborate or get lost in that moment.

2) If you can't handle a heckler or two - no matter how horrible they may be - you don't deserve to be in a situation where you are speaking and putting yourself in the center of their attention. When you do so, you are asking for someone to criticize what you are doing, and in a scenario like this (or Motivational speaker, pastor, school teacher), if you can not take the criticism or be able to defend what you are truly saying without apologizing, then you should not be standing up speaking in front of people.

3) He should not even have n*gger in his vocabulary. It is one of the ugliest words in the English language. What it represents, what it stands for, and how it demeans another human being. Now, some things can be taken out of context, some things can be twisted into saying that they are racist, and personally I feel we are becoming so paranoid about being politically correct as a white male we sometimes feel we can't say anything without being labelled a racist. However, that word, as deplorable as it is, should NEVER EVER be spoken, and especially within the context and the surrounding levels of hate in a man's voice as we witness in Michael Richards in that video. It should have NEVER been in his vocabulary to begin with.

4) If I haven't made my point enough, I will make this one the last. The point of being a stand-up comedian is not to offend people or to put people down. The point of doing stand-up, or any type of comedy for that matter, is to make people laugh. Whether it be to make people laugh about incidents in your personal life or within their own, things going on within our nation, or simply things we find humorous as we walk to work every day, the point is to make sure that when people leave after your act, they walk out with a smile on their face, feeling good about what they just heard. I see that video, and I feel sad, depressed a little, and honestly amazed at how much hatred could be within a person's soul. Yes, I say hatred, because you feel it when you watch it. The anger from that man just makes you feel dirty when you watch it. Who cares if he was heckled too much or whether or not he had a right to call them out? What was said was incredibly wrong, and it certainly was not funny or enjoyable to watch. At least not to me.

He should definately see a counselor about this whole issue. I hope and pray he gets his head right. However, more than anything, I hope he never gets on another stage and tries to do another act. We don't need that in our country. We need people who are going to make us laugh and feel a little bit better when they're time on the microphone is over.

Originally posted by Blind
3) He should not even have n*gger in his vocabulary.

We should not even have the atrocities committed by Nazis in our history.

I love it when people who know nothing about cannabis try to act like they do.

As PVS and X already stated, cannabis does not kill brain cells, and cannabinoids are actually naturally occurring in the human body.

And, yeah, yoda is my avatar, but cornponious is all mine. Google cornponious and everything you find is me. Google Kid Rock and you find quotes like these:

I didn't come from a trailer park. I grew up middle class and my dad had money and my mom made my lunch. I got a car when I was sixteen. I'm proud of that.
Kid Rock

I didn't want to go out and change anything. I just wanted to make the music that was part of my background, which was rock and blues and hip-hop.
Kid Rock

Now, I could understand it if he had said "I just wanted to make music that interested me" or something like that. But if he came from a middle-class family, and his dad had money, and his mom made him lunch every day, then rock and blues and hip-hop are definitely NOT "part of his background". Oh yeah, all the old Delta Blues artists came from wealthy middle-class families. Perhaps hip-hop could be "part of his background" if he had grown up in the inner city.

What a douchebag.

Man, I could go on and on putting down kid rock. It just makes me smile.

corn