Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
When did he ever punch through steel?
well when he stabbed the t-800
when he stabbed into the car he cut into the hood.
in the elevator scene he stabbed through the steel elevator car.. and doors.
Also when he fought with t-800, he through him through a brick wall...
just the movie scenes... but comics tend to be more outrageous than the movies... 😄
Originally posted by Soljer
I think a truckload of liquid nitrogen just HAPPENING to crash into him and lead him RIGHT into a refinery is a bit of PIS.Still, there isn't a way that Spidey is beating the Terminator without luring him into molten steel. Even freezing him just slows him down till he melts - as seen.
I'm not even sure the refinery could be considered anything beginning with plot. The terminator drove didn't he? Of course he did. He flipped the friggen truck. He always flips the truck. It could of been quite possible that he had a map of the city and knew they could dispose of the T-1000 there. And Sarah told John, who I think was driving the pick-up at the time, to take the exit to the refinery after the T-1000 got the truck, so it's not like they landed there at random.
I think I've watched this movie too many times.
Originally posted by rotiart
well when he stabbed the t-800
when he stabbed into the car he cut into the hood.
in the elevator scene he stabbed through the steel elevator car.. and doors.Also when he fought with t-800, he through him through a brick wall...
just the movie scenes... but comics tend to be more outrageous than the movies... 😄
And you mean the wall in the mall? I don't remember any bricks in that. There might of been but all I can remember is the drywall crap flying everywhere. Besides, I think I could push a terminator through a brick wall. It's like a big sledgehammer.
Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
PIS? Who wasn't using their powers to their fullest to advance what plot that caused the good fortune of a tank of liquid nitrogen? That was plot device material to give them enough time to get some distance.I'm not even sure the refinery could be considered anything beginning with plot. The terminator drove didn't he? Of course he did. He flipped the friggen truck. [b]He always flips the truck.
It could of been quite possible that he had a map of the city and knew they could dispose of the T-1000 there. And Sarah told John, who I think was driving the pick-up at the time, to take the exit to the refinery after the T-1000 got the truck, so it's not like they landed there at random.I think I've watched this movie too many times.
I don't remember him inflicting any cuts deeper than a flesh wound on the t-800. I don't know for sure, but I think car bodies are made of aluminum but I guess it'd depend on the car. If he hit the supports on the elevator the car probably would of dropped... which would of been a smart thing to do really.
And you mean the wall in the mall? I don't remember any bricks in that. There might of been but all I can remember is the drywall crap flying everywhere. Besides, I think I could push a terminator through a brick wall. It's like a big sledgehammer. [/B]
He pushed right through the elevator with his steel blades as if the ceiling wasn't there... and steel doors weren't there..
if i'm remembering it right, in the mall scene they throw each other against the brick walls causing huge dents... against the brick causing it to crumble. after a bit the t-1000 shoves the t-800 through... or was it vice versa. still it shows off their relative strengths.
Isn't this basically the same as a fight against Sandman? Sandman is also stronger than human, able to form his body in any shape, etc., etc...
Therefore, in fact, Spidey should have a slight advantage, because he still has his super-speed and agility (which the Terminator showed no evidence of) as well as his spider-sense and smarts, plus experience from fighting Sandman.
Therefore, I would argue, Spidey might actually win this more often than he loses. Unless I missed something from the Terminator (I only saw the movies, so that is what I am basing my Terminator feats on) the Terminator is not really that big a threat to Spidey, unless he gets hold of him - and from everything I saw in the movies, he is not fast enough to grab hold of Spidey.
You know, thinking back, I remember the T-1000 starting to glitch early in the movie which eventually leads to it beginning to break down in the refinery in deleted scenes. Even if Spidey doesn't get points for constantly splattering the T-1000, he'd eventually outlast it until it melts or whatever.
i'd say thier strength is relatively high. if you recall in T3, the terminators were flinging each other everywhere (same model, arnold anyway).
the t1000 showed greater strength (though not as high as the tx). so i'd say he's quite strong. if we are basing it off of movie version even. they are all quite durable.
i'd say spiderman could win. why not just find a way to splatter him, and find a way for his webbing to mix in with him as he tries to reform and solidify him. hydro man ring a bell?
The T-1000 only started to glitch AFTER it was frozen and re-formed from the Liquid nitrogen. Nothing else even phased it.
Also, I do believe that the T-1000 did shove a metal arm through Arnie, either before or after he pinned him to the wall with the pole, and slammed his head a few times.
And: A T-1000 would beat the shit out of a T-X.
😄.
Exactly what could Spiderman do to the T-1000? Nothing seemed to affect him until the freezing / melting part. Spiderman isn't instantly figuring out HOW and WHERE he can be able to destroy the terminator.
If Spiderman is wise enough to keep the distance and figure out a way to hurt T-1000, 5/10. If he goes to slug it out (like he most often does) he would get sliced into pieces for being careless and getting too close until knowing what are T-1000's abilities.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I'll say the T-1000. It doesn't tire. It can't be hurt physically except by extreme temperature.On the topic of webbing tensile strength isn't the same as hardness.
Indeed. Silk has a higher tensile strength than steel, if you take the cross sectional area into account.
But I can slice through a silk shirt a lot easier than a steel beam.
Originally posted by doctorstrongbad
I have to go with the arguement if Arnold and the humans can beat one, then Spider-man should be able to beat one. In fact spider-man being a scientist and having a degree in chemistry should make it much easier.
Arnold and the humans only beat one due to some plot devices falling into their laps. That's hardly a good arguement to utilize.
Spidey wins this hands down. He takes on Hydroman and finds ways to beat him. Considering that Hydroman and T - 1000 are very similar when it comes to their transformation into liquid form, Hydroman abilities on the other hand far exeed what T- 1000 can do. When in liquid form hydroman covers a larger area, he can cover greater distances faster than the T-1000 can. Hydroman overall has a wider range of attacks compared to the T-1000.
Spidey makes this match simple day in day out, mix a batch of webbing that will harden T-1000 just like it did hydroman match over. But obviously T-1000 wont be dead. Now seeing as T-1000 is in kill mode he will follow Spidey everywhere and Spidey will lead the T-1000 to his death
Spidey 10/10
If this battle takes place where Spidey cant use anything at all then its spite just like if he faced hydroman
Give Spidey prep to make some webbing T-1000 gets owned
Originally posted by python99
Spidey wins this hands down. He takes on Hydroman and finds ways to beat him. Considering that Hydroman and T - 1000 are very similar when it comes to their transformation into liquid form, Hydroman abilities on the other hand far exeed what T- 1000 can do. When in liquid form hydroman covers a larger area, he can cover greater distances faster than the T-1000 can. Hydroman overall has a wider range of attacks compared to the T-1000.
Spidey makes this match simple day in day out, mix a batch of webbing that will harden T-1000 just like it did hydroman match over. But obviously T-1000 wont be dead. Now seeing as T-1000 is in kill mode he will follow Spidey everywhere and Spidey will lead the T-1000 to his death
Spidey 10/10If this battle takes place where Spidey cant use anything at all then its spite just like if he faced hydroman
Give Spidey prep to make some webbing T-1000 gets owned
The T-1000 isn't liquid - he's referred to as liquid metal only because that's the easiest way to describe him, he's actually a system of nanites.