Thor was weakened in the first book but who knows about the second book and the other where Thor blocked Juggernauts magic and was facing him with no protection from his force field even then Juggernaut was holding his own and Thor had only a slit advantage because he was a superior fighter. But Juggernaut not only beat Thor in the first book in the second book he fought off the New Warriors with ease and then Fought Thor and was only defeated by Thor using Battle Field removable. Classic Juggernaut also back handed Captain Britian.
Originally posted by golem370
Thor was weakened in the first book but who knows about the second book and the other where Thor blocked Juggernauts magic and was facing him with no protection from his force field even then Juggernaut was holding his own and Thor had only a slit advantage because he was a superior fighter. But Juggernaut not only beat Thor in the first book in the second book he fought off the New Warriors with ease and then Fought Thor and was only defeated by Thor using Battle Field removable. Classic Juggernaut also back handed Captain Britian.
LOL. I have that issue of Thunderstrike. Hilarious. To be fair, neither Captain Britain NOR Thunderjoke are really heavy hitters, but juggernaut still clears this easily.
I don't think classic jugs has ever been outmuscled by ANYONE in the Marvel U, and that's a feat in and of itself.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl😆
Has Juggs ever beaten any one like superman? I dont' think it's possible to beat someone so far out of his strength range. Juggs doesn't have unlimited strength. just unlimted motion and durability. One punch from superman into the sun would end the fight rather quickly.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Has Juggs ever beaten any one like superman? I dont' think it's possible to beat someone so far out of his strength range. Juggs doesn't have unlimited strength. just unlimted motion and durability. One punch from superman into the sun would end the fight rather quickly.
Actually, Juggernaut's full strength is among one of the few marvel characters that actually IS unlimited/undefined, just like the hulk.
Originally posted by Space M ummy
Actually, Juggernaut's full strength is among one of the few marvel characters that actually IS unlimited/undefined, just like the hulk.
I have never read anywhere of Jugg's strength being unlimted. I have read the hulks being unlimited, Drax with the power gem, Champions, and others like that. Immortal Herc. But Juggs I have always read as having unlimited stamina, motion, and durability. And it seems he didn't even have that right cuz Onslaught knocked classic juggs on his ass.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I have never read anywhere of Jugg's strength being unlimted. I have read the hulks being unlimited, Drax with the power gem, Champions, and others like that. Immortal Herc. But Juggs I have always read as having unlimited stamina, motion, and durability. And it seems he didn't even have that right cuz Onslaught knocked classic juggs on his ass.
Onslaught who had the combined powers of Professor X and Magneto (neither of which has super strength, BTW..implying the feat was accomplished without pure muscle) and accomplished the HIGHLY PIS feat of pulling the cytorrak gem out of jug's chest and imprisoning him in it?
Yeah, I remember him knocking Juggernaut across the continent, and then jugs getting up immediately afterwards. Scared as hell, but not actually injured.
If you didn't know about Jug's strength being unlimited, you don't know enough about the character. he's one of the few who is, among hulk, thor, and possibly immortal hercules.
edit: to save you the trouble, from Marvel.com-
The Juggernaut originally possessed untold mystical power which enhanced his strength to an unknown degree and made him a seemingly irresistible, unstoppable being. Once he began to walk in a given direction, no obstacle or force on Earth was able to stop him. Some obstacles, for example many tons of rock, or forces such as plasma-discharge cannons slowed his pace considerably, but nothing stopped him permanently from advancing. The Juggernaut was, however, vulnerable to magical forces of sufficient strength.
Besides giving him vast superhuman strength, the mystical energy of Cyttorak gave the Juggernaut an extraordinary degree of resistance to all forms of injury. The Juggernaut could also shield himself even further from injury by mentally surrounding himself with a force field. Enveloped by this field, the Juggernaut had been seen to survive the fiery explosion of a truck transporting a huge quantity of oil without any injury whatsoever. The Juggernaut could survive indefinitely without food, water, or oxygen thanks to his being sustained by his mystical energies alone.
emphasis on "unknown degree" because marvel has never put a limit on it. In addition, he was easily able to hang with those like hulk and Thor who are KNOWN to have unlimited strength. It's also been established that his strength is directly related to his focus and link to cyttorak- 8th day jugs was simply Jugs at his full potential, FYI.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlIf you move your body, I’m not talking about repositioning it but it move from the stance then you are disqualified. If Sups picked up Jugs and threw him that is not winning plus you can “lock” you arm and it takes far more strength to move it then it does to keep it there.
Your not disqualified if you move the body. If someone is strong enough to lock thier arm in position and not have it bend ever, and your stronger than them, you are going to end up moving thier entire body even tho you are only applying pressure to thier arm.
Originally posted by ThePittman
If you move your body, I’m not talking about repositioning it but it move from the stance then you are disqualified. If Sups picked up Jugs and threw him that is not winning plus you can “lock” you arm and it takes far more strength to move it then it does to keep it there.
Your not understanding what I was saying. Not at all. If superman sits there and arm wrestles juggs and superman never moves at all, and the jugg locks his arm so that is can't be bent, superman could literally push hard enough on juggs arm so that Jugg's entire body moves and flips over. that is what I was trying to convey, just like the krytonian chick did to that guy in superman 2. she just flipped his entire body not just his arm.
Originally posted by Space M ummy
Onslaught who had the combined powers of Professor X and Magneto (neither of which has super strength, BTW..implying the feat was accomplished without pure muscle) and accomplished the HIGHLY PIS feat of pulling the cytorrak gem out of jug's chest and imprisoning him in it?Yeah, I remember him knocking Juggernaut across the continent, and then jugs getting up immediately afterwards. Scared as hell, but not actually injured.
If you didn't know about Jug's strength being unlimited, you don't know enough about the character. he's one of the few who is, among hulk, thor, and possibly immortal hercules.
edit: to save you the trouble, from Marvel.com-
The Juggernaut originally possessed untold mystical power which enhanced his strength to [b]an unknown degree
and made him a seemingly irresistible, unstoppable being. Once he began to walk in a given direction, no obstacle or force on Earth was able to stop him. Some obstacles, for example many tons of rock, or forces such as plasma-discharge cannons slowed his pace considerably, but nothing stopped him permanently from advancing. The Juggernaut was, however, vulnerable to magical forces of sufficient strength.Besides giving him vast superhuman strength, the mystical energy of Cyttorak gave the Juggernaut an extraordinary degree of resistance to all forms of injury. The Juggernaut could also shield himself even further from injury by mentally surrounding himself with a force field. Enveloped by this field, the Juggernaut had been seen to survive the fiery explosion of a truck transporting a huge quantity of oil without any injury whatsoever. The Juggernaut could survive indefinitely without food, water, or oxygen thanks to his being sustained by his mystical energies alone.
emphasis on "unknown degree" because marvel has never put a limit on it. In addition, he was easily able to hang with those like hulk and Thor who are KNOWN to have unlimited strength. It's also been established that his strength is directly related to his focus and link to cyttorak- 8th day jugs was simply Jugs at his full potential, FYI. [/B]
Unknown Degree simply means that no one knows to what degree. Unlimited or limitless strength means something totally different. Nice try. I can say Bill Gates tru wealth is unkown, but saying he has limitless wealth is altogether different statement.