Originally posted by LordKaos
Do you know what fallacy means? What's fallacious is just about everything you "say" about Storm. Who the hell cares about Thor?!? It is fact and on panel that Storm with all her absolute power over nature could do nothing to affect the storm created by what Magneto did to the Earths magnetic poles, she says herself "The storm is beyond my weather-manipulating power to control" When the nukes react violently to Magneto trying to "subtly, gently divert them into the upper atmosphere" Storm on the next pages says "It comes I can try to deflect the initial waves..." Then the Xmen hide in the snow because the blast is not halted. There is no fallacy in what I am "saying" I have the issue right in front of me, that's why I don't think you even know the definition of the word or you would not have used it incorrectly.
*Sigh*
Denying the antecedent is a logical fallacy, committed by reasoning in the form:
If P, then Q.
Not P.
Therefore, not Q.
Arguments of this form are invalid (except when the argument also instantiates some other valid form). Informally, this means that arguments of this form do not give good reason to establish their conclusions, even if their premises are true. The name denying the antecedent derives from the term for the "if" clause of a conditional claim.
One way to demonstrate the invalidity of this argument form is with a counterexample with true premises but an obviously false conclusion. For example:
If Queen Elizabeth is an American citizen, then she is a human being.
Queen Elizabeth is not an American citizen.
Therefore, Queen Elizabeth is not a human being.
And the Thor example had every bit to do with what you are trying to say.
If Thor can swing his hammer and all that other crap, then why doesn't he just casually lob Maggie's head off??
Is it because he can't do it??😬
One of his highest of the high feats:
http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/3559/magtakespain1fh.jpg
http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/9628/maglightingrodforenergies2bi.jpg
One of her highest of the high feats:
http://img212.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stormandthegalaticcore15zq.jpg
http://img212.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stormandthegalaticcore29bc.jpg
For comparsion sake alone, he's pathetic. He can do world wide stuff, so can she. He's very VERY powerful, but her powers take her to places he seemingly can never even approach.
She still loses this fight the vast majority of the time against these two, though.
Originally posted by 2damnloudFalse analogy and a red herring.
*Sigh*Denying the antecedent is a logical fallacy, committed by reasoning in the form:
If P, then Q.
Not P.
Therefore, not Q.
Arguments of this form are invalid (except when the argument also instantiates some other valid form). Informally, this means that arguments of this form do not give good reason to establish their conclusions, even if their premises are true. The name denying the antecedent derives from the term for the "if" clause of a conditional claim.One way to demonstrate the invalidity of this argument form is with a counterexample with true premises but an obviously false conclusion. For example:
If Queen Elizabeth is an American citizen, then she is a human being.
Queen Elizabeth is not an American citizen.
Therefore, Queen Elizabeth is not a human being.And the Thor example had every bit to do with what you are trying to say.
If Thor can swing his hammer and all that other crap, then why doesn't he just casually lob Maggie's head off??
Is it because he can't do it??😬
Originally posted by LordKaos
How is she exponentially more powerful than Magneto, when her weather control powers only deflect the initial waves of a nuke that hit the magnetic force he was using to scare the world into giving him Genosha? He felt the pain of the hit, being connected to the magnetosphere, and he was still able to continue, she could not summon a wind strong enough to effect the blast so they hid in the snow. She said she could not do anything to the storm that was caused by his machinations, while the Xmen were stranded in the Arctic, hiding behind snow and debris. uncanny xmen 366
Here's the problem in a nutshell: Storm has displayed FAR greater power levels outside of Magneto arcs. Magneto's high level feats always requires some kind of artificial enhancement or machine involved to pull of big stunts. If you look at what he has done without a machine, he's not very impressive. Storm, on the other hand, from the merits of her own power base (she doesn't need machines) has dwarfed anything Magneto has done even when he is boosted by artificial enhancements. That said, if each character is given credit for all aspects of their powers, Magneto's powers are next to useless against Storm. His energies cannot directly harm her body which limits him to only being able to hurl metal at her. Storm has many defenses against this. As a matter of fact, if given all aspects of her powers, she can absorb Magneto's energies and grow stronger.
In regards to Exodus, Storm is also leaps and bounds over him in power. His TP works against him in this fight as if he tried to use it against her, the electrical energies coursing through her body would fry his mind and effectively take him out of the fight. So there is one big weapon taken out of his arsenal. His TK makes him a tougher fight for Storm than Magneto as he can hurt her, however, he has no real defenses against her powers (she can use her powers through TK shields) and she can deflect his powers.
Storm can beat the two together.
Originally posted by Rutog98
Here's the problem in a nutshell: Storm has displayed FAR greater power levels outside of Magneto arcs. Magneto's high level feats always requires some kind of artificial enhancement or machine involved to pull of big stunts. If you look at what he has done without a machine, he's not very impressive. Storm, on the other hand, from the merits of her own power base (she doesn't need machines) has dwarfed anything Magneto has done even when he is boosted by artificial enhancements. That said, if each character is given credit for all aspects of their powers, Magneto's powers are next to useless against Storm. His energies cannot directly harm her body which limits him to only being able to hurl metal at her. Storm has many defenses against this. As a matter of fact, if given all aspects of her powers, she can absorb Magneto's energies and grow stronger.In regards to Exodus, Storm is also leaps and bounds over him in power. His TP works against him in this fight as if he tried to use it against her, the electrical energies coursing through her body would fry his mind and effectively take him out of the fight. So there is one big weapon taken out of his arsenal. His TK makes him a tougher fight for Storm than Magneto as he can hurt her, however, he has no real defenses against her powers (she can use her powers through TK shields) and she can deflect his powers.
Storm can beat the two together.
I'm not really going to argue with you. but it's kind of ridiculous for you to state these things without giving examples.
His:
http://img279.imageshack.us/img279/3365/magcutsaswath8vm.jpg
Hers:
http://img165.imageshack.us/my.php?image=marvelsuperheroesv308p1ih5.jpg
http://img292.imageshack.us/my.php?image=marvelsuperheroesv308p1dg5.jpg
http://img165.imageshack.us/my.php?image=marvelsuperheroesv308p1xz3.jpg
http://img292.imageshack.us/my.php?image=marvelsuperheroesv308p1jr0.jpg
http://img165.imageshack.us/my.php?image=marvelsuperheroesv308p1rv5.jpg
http://img165.imageshack.us/my.php?image=marvelsuperheroesv308p2yo5.jpg
😬
Why did you bump it??😬
One last thing:
Magneto admits that she never ever considered killing him
http://img489.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xmenunlimited3906ts1.jpg
Originally posted by 2damnlouddur
Why did you bump it??😬One last thing:
Magneto admits that she never ever considered killing him
http://img489.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xmenunlimited3906ts1.jpg
Originally posted by 2damnloud
Why did you bump it??😬One last thing:
Magneto admits that she never ever considered killing him
http://img489.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xmenunlimited3906ts1.jpg
That does not concretely mean he thinks she COULD kill him either 😬
