A poster over at crossing-blades.com has translated the words on the AWE poster.Thanks to serenity.
The words on the poster say:"Captain Jack, Good Luck" to read more click here http://www.crossing-blades.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=211027#post211027
Originally posted by Chiki Minawhoa whoa whoa whao whoa whoa...whoa where does he say this?
hey I was lstening to johnny about the fertility thing Jack wears. He said that he wears a fertily belt...and then he went like in blank and said...just because! lolI wonder if he doesnt know, or he does know and is trying to be careful not to spill the beans.
😮 I will be honest I dont believe the symbol has anything whatsoever to do with anything in the story but this may change my mind...
I also dont think Gibbs's lines have anything to do with children in the movie but thats IMO but hey im up for a lil' Jackie runnin around dont get me wrong
Originally posted by ToddianGirlI sent it off to my cousin who asn't mailed me back yet but she can read stuff like that shes a manga artist person
A poster over at crossing-blades.com has translated the words on the AWE poster.Thanks to serenity.
The words on the poster say:"Captain Jack, Good Luck" to read more click here http://www.crossing-blades.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=211027#post211027
I'm catching up, so don't ya'll get me too bad.
About the Faithful Bride, TnT mentioned it in the commentaries of COTBP.
On the commentaries of DMC TnT say that Will has been in three shipwrecks.
Strange that on two he was floating on a plank. It seemed to me that each time he hit the water, his character changed.
Originally posted by calypso
I'm catching up, so don't ya'll get me too bad.About the Faithful Bride, TnT mentioned it in the commentaries of COTBP.
On the commentaries of DMC TnT say that Will has been in three shipwrecks.
Strange that on two he was floating on a plank. It seemed to me that each time he hit the water, his character changed.
oooh... good point. that could turn out some interesting theories... woah... 🙂
Hmm, are they
1. when he was 12 and Liz saved him
2. on the boat the kraken demolished
3. escaping the Pearl just before the kraken demolished it.
I can definitely see how those add to his character. We don't know him before the first shipwreck, but it explains a lot: the closeness he feels towards Liz, his hatred for pirates, and his search to find his father. I don't know the script by heart, but it seems like when he was on the first ship the kraken destroyed, he seemed more resolved, like if he didn't stop Davy Jones, nothing would. So his mission kind of changed from saving Liz to saving his dad (and later Liz). Some people will get on him about that, but I think it's pretty noble for him to have such an undertaking. He probably figured Liz would escape anyway.
And the third shipwreck, I think he's seriously considering just how much he wants Liz and if she's worth all the "trouble" or not. I think he sees Jack as a means to an end, like he'll need a pirate to help him stab the heart.
Next Order of Business: I'm going back to the AWE poster if you look you'll notice that the Jack skull has a ring on it.(Yes a ring) I think it means something so lets see what a ring symbolizes.
Ring:The ring is a tangible manifestation of the CIRCLE; it represents infinity and eternity, divinity and life. The ring also represents power, dignity, sovreignty, and strength. Thus, to bestow a ring is to indicate a transferrence of power. As is exemplified by the traditional wedding ring, the object is also binding, as with husband and wife, or as a spiritual union with the Church itself.
Circle:The circle is a universal symbol with extensive meaning. It represents the notions of totality, wholeness, original perfection, the Self, the infinite, eternity, timelessness, all cyclic movement, God ('God is a circle whose centre is everywhere and whose circumference is nowhere' (Hermes Trismegistus)). As the sun, it is masculine power; as the soul and as encircling waters, it is the feminine maternal principle. "It implies an idea of movement, and symbolizes the cycle of time, the per petual motion of everything that moves, the planets' journey around the sun (the circle of the zodiac), the great rhythm of the universe. The circle is also zero in our system of numbering, and symbolizes potential, or the embryo. It has a magical value as a protective agent, ... and indicates the end of the process of individuation, of striving towards a psychic wholeness and self-realization" (Julien, 71).
With the number ten, symbolizes heaven and perfection as well as eternity. In Jung, the antithesis of the square (lowest state of man who has not achieved inner perfection), standing for the ultimate state of Oneness, with octagon in between. Circle of Necessity: birth, growth, decline, death. Defense against chaos, formlessness.
Another thing I found that I thought was interesting: On the Island both Lizzie and Jack are both bare foot(Lizzie is barefoot almost through out the whole movie of COTBP)
Bare Feet:is a sign of mourning and respect. Bare Feet also symbolizes Liberty(I put this in because Slaves were barefoot. This ties with the movie because Jack freed the slaves.)
I also wanted to post this about Jack's Compass: This comes from the Pirates of the Caribbean Visual Guide: it says that Jack never trusted anyone with his compass his prize possession. But we all know that he did trust someone with it Lizzie! She is the only one he trusted with it.
Links:
http://www.umich.edu/~umfandsf/symbolismproject/symbolism.html/
This is a little muddled, but I am still trying to sort this idea out, so all of you can help.
1. Lizzy sheds her past to become a pirate and does all sorts of
piratey things throughout DMC
2. Will hates pirates to the point that he trains with the sword for 3-hr
a day so "If I meet a pirate, I can kill it", but has to become a
pirate to rescue Lizzy or his Dad and he still won't admit he is
pirate
So why, when L, W, R, G, P are in Tia's hut and they toast Jack all say "Aye" except Lizzy who says "Yes".
Does anyone notice that she and Will just contradicted their characters?
If will is committed to killing pirates, he will have to kill his dad, Elizabeth, Jack, and eventually himself. I think Will's character development in film 1 alone proved that he is no longer committed to that however. he's a pirate now, in the liberal sense of the word, and i think he is finally okay with that. he's just a bit like Jack, a pirate with an honest streak.
Elizabeth was raised proper. "Aye" Would not have fit her character. And I heard it was originally written "aye" but Keira felt odd saying it and explained that Elizabeth probably would have said "yes" instead.
With Lizzy trying to shine like a pirate, she should have said "Aye". "Yes" harks back to her Port Royal life. Maybe that was meant to be a subtle change in the direction of her character. She's decided she doesn't like the piraty side of her life. Or it's just one more example of her schizophrenic personality
IMO as far as Will is concerned, "Aye" is foreshadowing his life as a true pirate and leaving the life of a blacksmith behind. I want to hear Will tell Jack "I understand how you were trapped into piracy, and you are still a good man", because at the end of COTBP he did say Jack was a good man.
You could also look at it as an answer to Will's question. He starts to talk to her about what could be done about Jack, but Tia Dalma interrupts him before he can finish. If memory serves, she is even looking in his direction.
Also, I think you're right in that it high lights her struggle. Is she a pirate or the governor's daughter? I think it foreshadows her development as the story continues. From the looks of things, it seems that both she and Jack are forced into Piracy through the efforts of Beckett.