Marvel & DC Earth?
As it is now? They would lose, Asgard is down with the exeption of Beta Ray Bill. Namor & Aquaman and their armies could not beat rest now.
Classic days? Asgard & Atlantis would win.
One word. Odin. Or King Thor, whatever is your preference.
Odin
Thor
Beta Ray Bill
Asgard's armies
Namor
Aquaman
Both Atlantis armies...
DC + Marvel earths are most likely going down.
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Marvel & DC Earth?As it is now? They would lose, Asgard is down with the exeption of Beta Ray Bill. Namor & Aquaman and their armies could not beat rest now.
Classic days? Asgard & Atlantis would win.
One word. Odin. Or King Thor, whatever is your preference.
Odin
Thor
Beta Ray Bill
Asgard's armies
Namor
Aquaman
Both Atlantis armies...DC + Marvel earths are most likely going down.
😬 Not really
Sentry is now the strongest one on Marvel Earth. He would get pwnd by Odin, honestly.
DC Earth's heavy hitters are at this moment...Black Adam, Captain Marvel and Superman? Cap can't leave Rock of Eternity (So someone could ambush him there, I know he has Shazam's powers, but Odin would probably defeat Shazam), Black Adam and Superman are taken down by Beta Ray Bill and Thor or at least held off until Odin comes and swats them aside.
Hell, are we counting Asgardian villains too? Let's see, Loki, Ymir, SURTUR...
And Namor and Aquaman with their armies would be pretty impressive support too.
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Sentry is now the strongest one on Marvel Earth. He would get pwnd by Odin, honestly.DC Earth's heavy hitters are at this moment...Black Adam, Captain Marvel and Superman? Cap can't leave Rock of Eternity (So someone could ambush him there, I know he has Shazam's powers, but Odin would probably defeat Shazam), Black Adam and Superman are taken down by Beta Ray Bill and Thor or at least held off until Odin comes and swats them aside.
Hell, are we counting Asgardian villains too? Let's see, Loki, Ymir, SURTUR...
And Namor and Aquaman with their armies would be pretty impressive support too.
Originally posted by juggernaut66666
What about Zatana,Enchantress,Zauriel,Franklin Richards,Alan Scott (Sentinel)(Ion is onDc Earth curently also Spectre is on Dc Earth curently)
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I just noticed there are two identical threads on this. here's my repost:
Eh... if by "all of marvel" you include the Greek Pantheons (Zeus, Hercules, Ares, etc) the Inhumans (Black Bolt, etc) The Eternals (Ikaris, Sersi) Mystics (Strange, Mordo, Doom etc) Heralds (Surfer, Forgotten one, Stardust) Every Omega level mutant in 616 (magneto, Iceman, Storm, etc) every top tier NON mutant in 616 (Sentry, Graviton, Nefaria, Maelstrom..) then marvel annihilates Asgard with little effort, and that's not even considering any characters OVER skyfather level, like celestials, cube beings, galactus, Agamotto, Mephisto, etc.
Atlantis is a non issue. Namor and Marrina are the only notable beings here- they're not enough to make a difference either way.
King thor/Odin is a nonissue, as the heads of OTHER pantheons (zeus , set, cytorrak) are clearly his equal.
There's no reason for DC to even get involved. Asgard just isn't much to write home about.
I believe we are going by Earth's only. Would be pretty unfair with ALL of Marvel and DC. Orginal poster needs to specify if he meant All of Earth or all of the Universe.
Originally posted by juggernaut66666
What about Zatana,Enchantress,Zauriel,Franklin Richards,Alan Scott (Sentinel)(Ion is onDc Earth curently also Spectre is on Dc Earth curently)
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Franklin is powerless.
I wouldn't count Ion or Spectre Earth characters, since they don't spend much time there...same reason as I was iffy on Neptune.
Imo, Loki would hand Zatanna her ass. Enchantress of DC...not really sure of her power level. Zauriel is good, but good enough to go against the likes of BRB, Thor, Odin or Loki?
Atlantis defenitely isn't non-factor with their technologies and magics.
I've forgotten all about Karnilla and Marvel Enchantress too.
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
I believe we are going by Earth's only. Would be pretty unfair with ALL of Marvel and DC.
The original poster specified ALL of marvel and DC. I don't see "earths" in there anywhere. But even so, all other pantheons > Just asgard. IIRC, The asgardian and Greek pantheons were in conflict for centuries and that resulted in a stalemate. Dog pile the rest of earth in there and it's a loss for the Asgard Team.
Edit: Morgan Le Fay killed 80% of Atlantis when she raised it to the surface. Atlantis is irrelevant here.
Originally posted by Space M ummy
The original poster specified ALL of marvel and DC. I don't see "earths" in there anywhere. But even so, all other pantheons > Just asgard. IIRC, The asgardian and Greek pantheons were in conflict for centuries and that resulted in a stalemate. Dog pile the rest of earth in there and it's a loss for the Asgard Team.Edit: Morgan Le Fay killed 80% of Atlantis when she raised it to the surface. Atlantis is irrelevant here.
As shown in comics and the Civil War handbook (by Tony Stark) Atlantis is stronger then ever. Namor has always found a way to restore his kingdom.
If you say that Atlantis is irrelevant, you don't know much of it. Example, average Atlantean gun can knock out Namor or Thing with one blast...
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
As shown in comics and the Civil War handbook (by Tony Stark) Atlantis is stronger then ever. Namor has always found a way to restore his kingdom.If you say that Atlantis is irrelevant, you don't know much of it. Example, average Atlantean gun can knock out Namor or Thing with one blast...
It may be stronger than ever, but that doesn't change the fact that ONE individual Killed 80% of them. Yes, an atlantean gun might knock out Namor or thing, but how would it work against say...Ares? Apocalypse? The High Evolutionary? Graviton? the Juggernaut?
Graviton is an ESPECIALLY good example as he was able to immobilize the entire superhuman population of earth on his own. There's no reason he wouldnt be able to fling atlantis itself into orbit, killing all of them instantly while thousands of miles away on the other side of the globe.
Atlantis is WAY, WAY over it's head here.
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
I believe we are going by Earth's only. Would be pretty unfair with ALL of Marvel and DC. Orginal poster needs to specify if he meant All of Earth or all of the Universe.Franklin is powerless.
I wouldn't count Ion or Spectre Earth characters, since they don't spend much time there...same reason as I was iffy on Neptune.
Imo, Loki would hand Zatanna her ass. Enchantress of DC...not really sure of her power level. Zauriel is good, but good enough to go against the likes of BRB, Thor, Odin or Loki?
Atlantis defenitely isn't non-factor with their technologies and magics.
I've forgotten all about Karnilla and Marvel Enchantress too.
aren't you foregtting about Jakeem Thunder and black alice they would solo Asgard 🙂
Originally posted by Space M ummy
It may be stronger than ever, but that doesn't change the fact that ONE individual Killed 80% of them. Yes, an atlantean gun might knock out Namor or thing, but how would it work against say...Ares? Apocalypse? The High Evolutionary? Graviton? the Juggernaut?
It's not like she killed them with her own hands. The power of the gods she was summoning (in a long ritual...) had more to do with it.
Hell, if Llyron had not been the Emperor of Atlantis the whole crisis would be averted.
Ares would probably be knocked out, current Ares wasn't even fire or bulletproof from what I saw from his recent mini. Namor alone beat the classic Ares before that. High Evolutionary...I'm not aware of his durability level, but seeing as lesser powers then the entire fricking army of Atlantis has stopped him before...Juggernaut is weak these days.
Originally posted by Space M ummy
Graviton is an ESPECIALLY good example as he was able to immobilize the entire superhuman population of earth on his own. There's no reason he wouldnt be able to fling atlantis itself into orbit, killing all of them instantly while thousands of miles away on the other side of the globe.
The reason would be, perhaps that he is so weak right now that Iron Man beat him with ease?
Originally posted by Space M ummy
Atlantis is WAY, WAY over it's head here.
Maybe to the uninformed...
And who the hell is saying that it is Atlantis taking on to all the major threats here?
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
It's not like she killed them with her own hands. The power of the gods she was summoning (in a long ritual...) had more to do with it.Hell, if Llyron had not been the Emperor of Atlantis the whole crisis would be averted.
Ares would probably be knocked out, current Ares wasn't even fire or bulletproof from what I saw from his recent mini. Namor alone beat the classic Ares before that. High Evolutionary...I'm not aware of his durability level, but seeing as lesser powers then the entire fricking army of Atlantis has stopped him before...Juggernaut is weak these days.
The reason would be, perhaps that he is so weak right now that Iron Man beat him with ease?
Maybe to the uninformed...
And who the hell is saying that it is Atlantis taking on to all the major threats here?
It doesn't matter who morgan le fay had to call on to raise atlantis, the fact is she's accomplished it. If she's done it before, she can do it again.
Ares, along with the rest of the olympians is both immortal AND bulletproof. Namor might have beaten him, but the average Atlantean is nowhere CLOSE to namor's strength.
Iron Man soloing Graviton when he's taken on the entire avengers and thunderbolts rosters before including Iron Man AND Thor SIMULTANEOUSLY is a case of EXTREME PIS. But he's an example of someone who's powerset could EASILY annihilate a good chunk of Atlantis on his own.
Atlantis isn't taking on "all the major threats." I'm saying in a contest where Atlantis and Asgard are going against the REST OF MARVEL AND DC EARTH they're outnumbered AND outclassed. What exactly would atlantis do is the combined Greek Pantheons of Marvel and DC earth decided to invade it? Isn't poseidon himself a greek god? Atlantis is TOAST.
Originally posted by Space M ummy
It doesn't matter who morgan le fay had to call on to raise atlantis, the fact is she's accomplished it. If she's done it before, she can do it again.
No, she can't. It was an one time ritual that took lot of time.
Originally posted by Space M ummy
Ares, along with the rest of the olympians is both immortal AND bulletproof. Namor might have beaten him, but the average Atlantean is nowhere CLOSE to namor's strength.
Immortal in the sense that he will live forever, yes, immortal in the sense that he can't be killed, no.
And Atlantean guns can kill him. Did you read the miniseries?
Originally posted by Space M ummy
Iron Man soloing Graviton when he's taken on the entire avengers and thunderbolts rosters before including Iron Man AND Thor SIMULTANEOUSLY is a case of EXTREME PIS. But he's an example of someone who's powerset could EASILY annihilate a good chunk of Atlantis on his own.
And you do know that the Thunderbolts issue is actually just the minimum of his showings? Majority of them show him at much lower level, etc. Spider-Man and Warmachine giving him good fights.
Originally posted by Space M ummy
IAtlantis isn't taking on "all the major threats." I'm saying in a contest where Atlantis and Asgard are going against the REST OF MARVEL AND DC EARTH they're outnumbered AND outclassed. What exactly would atlantis do is the combined Greek Pantheons of Marvel and DC earth decided to invade it? Isn't poseidon himself a greek god? Atlantis is TOAST.
The combined Greek Pantheons do not reside on Earth. They reside on another dimension, and simply visit the Earth occasionally. Marvel and DC Earth in versus terms usually consist of the guys whose primary base of operations is it, etc. Hercules is part of MU Earth, but not Zeus.
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
No, she can't. It was an one time ritual that took lot of time.Immortal in the sense that he will live forever, yes, immortal in the sense that he can't be killed, no.
And Atlantean guns can kill him. Did you read the miniseries?
And you do know that the Thunderbolts issue is actually just the minimum of his showings? Majority of them show him at much lower level, etc. Spider-Man and Warmachine giving him good fights.
The combined Greek Pantheons do not reside on Earth. They reside on another dimension, and simply visit the Earth occasionally. Marvel and DC Earth in versus terms usually consist of the guys whose primary base of operations is it, etc. Hercules is part of MU Earth, but not Zeus.
Black Alice + Jakeem Thunder+ current Ion > Asgard + Alantis ✅