Immortal in the sense that he will live forever, yes, immortal in the sense that he can't be killed, no.
Superhuman strength, stamina, durability, agility, and reflexes. Ares is also an immortal with an unending lifespan. He can be wounded during battle but due to his Olympian nature he heals very quickly. Only an injury of such magnitude that it incinerates all or a portion of his bodily molecules could cause him physical death.
From Marvel.com.
And Atlantean guns can kill him. Did you read the miniseries?
I did not read the miniseries, but if they can, then it contradicts everything marvel's established about olympians up to this point.
And you do know that the Thunderbolts issue is actually just the minimum of his showings? Majority of them show him at much lower level, etc. Spider-Man and Warmachine giving him good fights.
you mean like the Fantastic 4 issue where he rode an asteroid through space, pulled the atmosphere from a passing planet and claimed to be able to prevent the merging of two dimensions during inferno 20 years ago? I think you have it backwards. Graviton has ALWAYS been written as a team wrecker, outside of one or two low showings. PIS/CIS off (as it should be on the boards) Graviton Annihilates Atlantis on his own. But that's not the point. There are FAR too many high powered individuals like Graviton that would utterly annihilate atlantis in an eyeblink.
The combined Greek Pantheons do not reside on Earth. They reside on another dimension, and simply visit the Earth occasionally. Marvel and DC Earth in versus terms usually consist of the guys whose primary base of operations is it, etc. Hercules is part of MU Earth, but not Zeus. [/B]
The Olympic gods are offspring of Gaea (re: earth) the pantheon is tied into earth, and the primary activities of all the gods take place there. Zeus, Pluto, Ares, Neptune, Venus, etc all make numerous appearances on earth, unlike say...the elders of the universe, who are spaced based and rarely appear here. If the earth was seriously threatened (for instance, by the celestial host) Those gods certainly DO show up. They're included here.
And again, where does the original poster specify earth only?
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Surtur + Ymir + Thor + Loki + Karnilla >> Jakeem & Black Alice.And I really would not consider Ion or Spectre as Earth characters...
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You do realize that Jakeem Thunder controls an 5 d imp right?
and Black Alice can steal powers from any magic user right?
Alice steals Odins powers and she and Jakeem with his imp detsory the rest it really is that simple
and Ion is based on earth 😉
Originally posted by S-Ranger
Can anyone remember the time when Thor pwned Marvel Earth 🙄 ....wait can you hear that??? the sound of someone about to type: OMFG THAT WOZ PIS!!
Not PIS, but characters who would have been able to stop him (zeus, for instance- all eternals, the egyptian pantheon, etc) either chose not to intervene or were mysteriously absent that day.
it IS canon that when the Olympians and Asgardians went to war a thousand years ago it ended in a stalemate, so the two are dead even as far as Marvel is concerned.
Originally posted by Devil Lance
😆You do realize that Jakeem Thunder controls an 5 d imp right?
and Black Alice can steal powers from any magic user right?
Alice steals Odins powers and she and Jakeem with his imp detsory the rest it really is that simple
and Ion is based on earth 😉
I do realize that, but from what I have seen from JSA, Jakeem is far away from being able to use the full potential of 5d Imp he has. And I am not sure if she is better now, but weren't Black Alice's powers pretty unstable?
Originally posted by Space M ummy
Superhuman strength, stamina, durability, agility, and reflexes. Ares is also an immortal with an unending lifespan. [b]He can be wounded during battle but due to his Olympian nature he heals very quickly. Only an injury of such magnitude that it incinerates all or a portion of his bodily molecules could cause him physical death.From Marvel.com. [/B]
Doesn't seem to be that anymore. Besides, he could be incapacitated before some of the big guns take him out. Again, it is not Atlantis alone.
Originally posted by Space M ummy
I did not read the miniseries, but if they can, then it contradicts everything marvel's established about olympians up to this point.
Ehh, not really. Ares never died there.
Originally posted by Space M ummy
you mean like the Fantastic 4 issue where he rode an asteroid through space, pulled the atmosphere from a passing planet and claimed to be able to prevent the merging of two dimensions during inferno [b]20 years ago? I think you have it backwards. Graviton has ALWAYS been written as a team wrecker, outside of one or two low showings. PIS/CIS off (as it should be on the boards) Graviton Annihilates Atlantis on his own. But that's not the point. There are FAR too many high powered individuals like Graviton that would utterly annihilate atlantis in an eyeblink. [/B]
Sure, but if we use high showings for both, what stops Atlanteans simply taking Graviton out with a simple magical curse? I don't think he has any kind of magical protection. We are talking about the people who Doctor Strange has come to ask advice and who built the Serpent Crown...
Originally posted by Space M ummy
The Olympic gods are offspring of Gaea (re: earth) the pantheon is tied into earth, and the primary activities of all the gods take place there. Zeus, Pluto, Ares, Neptune, Venus, etc all make numerous appearances on earth, unlike say...the elders of the universe, who are spaced based and rarely appear here. If the earth was seriously threatened (for instance, by the celestial host) Those gods certainly DO show up. They're included here.And again, where does the original poster specify earth only?
He doesn't, and like I said...
"Orginal poster needs to specify if he meant All of Earth or all of the Universe."
I'm just debating an scenario. Obviously this is a bit stupid thread if this is all Marvel Universe and DC Universe (TOAA & The Presence). It's not fun to debate something that doesn't get any discussion up.
Hence, if you want to debate this, go ahead. If you want to debate all the universe, obviously Asgard and Atlantis does not win.
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
I do realize that, but from what I have seen from JSA, Jakeem is far away from being able to use the full potential of 5d Imp he has. And I am not sure if she is better now, but weren't Black Alice's powers pretty unstable?
No not unstable at all she was able to use Zantanna's tlaking backwards speels perfvectly and she was able to ressurect people when she had Felix Fausts powers, she also was in full control of her powers when she had spectres. 😉
Originally posted by Space M ummy
Not PIS, but characters who would have been able to stop him (zeus, for instance- all eternals, the egyptian pantheon, etc) either chose not to intervene or were mysteriously absent that day.it IS canon that when the Olympians and Asgardians went to war a thousand years ago it ended in a stalemate, so the two are dead even as far as Marvel is concerned.
Very good point there and now i've taken it i'd say they'd probably be able to only take one force i.e. Marvel's and that's being generous and on a very very damn good day.
Originally posted by Devil Lance
No not unstable at all she was able to use Zantanna's tlaking backwards speels perfvectly and she was able to ressurect people when she had Felix Fausts powers, she also was in full control of her powers when she had spectres. 😉
That's pretty badass. Guess she is a major threat, then. Do the othe people lose their magic if she gets them?
Originally posted by Howard_Jones
During the Vengeance story arc, Spectre was. I'll agree there. I don't think Alan was up to that level, to be honest. Ion was close.