General Grievous vs. Darth Vader (OT)

Originally posted by Prodigal Knight
C'mon Darth, are you kidding me? Anakin is exaggerated. Kit is exaggerated. Luminara is exaggerated. Bariss is exaggerated. Asajj is exaggerated. Mace is exaggerated. Literally every lightsaber-wielding warrior in that show is exaggerated by a tenfold. So just because of nowhere, the directors of the CW are going to be like "Oh, everyone else is exaggerated. Let's not do that to Grievous." Please, CW Grievous is exaggerated, though not by a lot.

And then Grievous manages to dodge all those gunshots by the Clones!!! Seriously, CW Grievous is an exaggeration of the real EU Grievous.

CW Grievous is NOT exaggerated because if he is then so is LOE Grievous, Grievous from the Grievous comics, Grievous from Dark Jedi, Grievous from Obsession, Grievous from Boba Fett: A New Threat and Grievous from the Clone Wars Adventures. So eitehr all of these Grievous are overexaggerated or none of them are, because he's the same in all of them.

No, because CW Grievous is shown to be more poewrful than his LOE self. Seriously, thats just like asking Mace Windu to take on the 5 Jedi on Hypori and see if he can pwn them. Windu cannot pwn them, he can win, but I doubt he pwns them.

How is Anakin exaggerated? Asajj is only exaggerated when she wiped out all those Clones with the Force without being seen. Kenobi was never exaggerated. None of the Jedi Grievous faught were exaggerated, except Shaak Ti when she takes out like twenty Magnaguards at once. Voolvif Monn, Roron Corobb and Foul Moudama were not over exaggerated.

Yeah, Anakin and Asajj were exaggerated. Remember their duel, when they jumped treetop to treetop at blazing speeds. Remember Roron Corobb's Throat Cry, which blasted those droids away. Remember Voolvif Monn reflecting a line of droids (twenty+ I counted) in Chapter 20 of CW 1.

So no, not every saber wielding warrior in the show is overexaggerated.

Perhaps, though a high majority of them are.

No, because CW Grievous is shown to be more poewrful than his LOE self. Seriously, thats just like asking Mace Windu to take on the 5 Jedi on Hypori and see if he can pwn them. Windu cannot pwn them, he can win, but I doubt he pwns them.

Yeah, Anakin and Asajj were exaggerated. Remember their duel, when they jumped treetop to treetop at blazing speeds.

Remember Roron Corobb's Throat Cry, which blasted those droids away.

Remember Voolvif Monn reflecting a line of droids (twenty+ I counted) in Chapter 20 of CW 1.

5 exhausted Jedi, when Mace has the advantage of fear and surprise? Yes, they would get pwnd.

Perhaps. But note that Mace > EU Grievous. And the actual portrayal of that fight (which I just saw on youtube) shows Grievous spinning his blades at ridiculously high speeds. Seriously, that means this EU Grievous >>>> ROTS Grievous, which is highly unlikely.

I think the duel was just being showed at high speed for a few seconds.

And not only that. You see Anakin in certain scenes lifting an entire pillar and throwing at Asajj and then countering it. There's so many exaggerations of PADAWAN Anakin's powers that its absolutely ridiculous. To me, this CW Anakin > ROTS Anakin.

Which exhausted him afterwards. It was was because of his powerful neck muscles, and in essence was a powerful Force blast which was exerted from his neck. It wasn't exaggerated.

It destroyed an entire regiment of droids and blasted apart the sidewalk and everything. Ithorians must have REALLY powerful throats then.

But only for a few seconds, that might be possible, for all we know Voolvif Mon might be one of the strongest Jedi in the order.

Random excuse. Remember the scene where Monn, Aayla, and Koth are captured by this 30 ft droid and then Knight Anakin saves them. If Monn was so powerful to block the shots of 20 Super Battle Droids, then he should have no problem with a single Spider Droid, I hope?

Seriously darthsith, you can't deny that the CW series is full of exaggerations.

Perhaps. But note that Mace > EU Grievous. And the actual portrayal of that fight (which I just saw on youtube) shows Grievous spinning his blades at ridiculously high speeds. Seriously, that means this EU Grievous >>>> ROTS Grievous, which is highly unlikely.

And not only that. You see Anakin in certain scenes lifting an entire pillar and throwing at Asajj and then countering it. There's so many exaggerations of PADAWAN Anakin's powers that its absolutely ridiculous. To me, this CW Anakin > ROTS Anakin.

It destroyed an entire regiment of droids and blasted apart the sidewalk and everything. Ithorians must have REALLY powerful throats then.

Random excuse. Remember the scene where Monn, Aayla, and Koth are captured by this 30 ft droid and then Knight Anakin saves them. If Monn was so powerful to block the shots of 20 Super Battle Droids, then he should have no problem with a single Spider Droid, I hope?

He does spin them quite fast. His speed in that instance might be slightly exaggerated but his overall power is not. Mace is hardly stronger than EU grievous, too, and, due to the fact that Grievous has multiple lightsabers he would likely do just as good or better than mace would against multiple Jedi at the same time

Well yeah, his speed is one of the main exaggerations. Well obviously, him blocking the lightsabers with his strength is clearly not an exaggeration. His ability to pwn them by isolating them with his tornado attack is quite ridiculous.

Your kidding, right? So he tossed some things at Asajj, so what? In LOE he uses the Force to collapse an eitire room! This is no exaggeration. And Padawan Anakin is already stronger than alot of Jedi.

Some things!!! My friend, he threw pillars at Asajj with no effort at all. And he blocked one while running. Yes, in ROTS, do you see Anakin being able to throw pillars and stuff? No, all we see of him is pushing Obi-Wan, which he fails. And so what if his rage collapses an entire room. It took time right?

Yup

Exactly, a clear exaggeration.

Who ever said that was Monn, Kolar and Aayla and not just other Jedi of the same species?

WTF?? This makes no sense. Again though, Monn being the uber Jedi couldn't even take on a single Spider droid. The whole exaggeration doesn't even add up.

Well yeah, his speed is one of the main exaggerations. Well obviously, him blocking the lightsabers with his strength is clearly not an exaggeration. His ability to pwn them by isolating them with his tornado attack is quite ridiculous.

Some things!!! My friend, he threw pillars at Asajj with no effort at all. And he blocked one while running.

Yes, in ROTS, do you see Anakin being able to throw pillars and stuff? No, all we see of him is pushing Obi-Wan, which he fails.

And so what if his rage collapses an entire room. It took time right?

Exactly, a clear exaggeration.

WTF?? This makes no sense. Again though, Monn being the uber Jedi couldn't even take on a single Spider droid. The whole exaggeration doesn't even add up.

Vader crushes GG with FG, End of the damm story. no excuses of saying "OHHHH lala! GG can dodge the crush!! Zomg!"

This is hardly even a fight since vader would woop GGs metalic ass with the force and if vader can rip tanks apart like nothing he sure hell can toy with GG

Thats bullsh*t and you know it. How the hell is Vader going to pull of an advanced and difficult move like Crush against someone like Greivous. Simple answer: He's not

This is EU General Greivous, and advanced killing machine who has shown us some pretty spectacular stuff. Dodging force pushes and killing multiple jedi at once come to mind. He is stronger physically than Vader due to the fact he is completely metal. Therefore his attacks are going to beat Vader back, not the other way around. He also wields 4 blades at once, usually using them at lightning speeds. Now, how the holy hell is Vader meant to defend against this? He is embarrasingly slow, struggling to keep up with the attacks of the untrained Luke Skywalker. I see absolutely no way that Vader is going to win a lightsaber battle - and chances are its going to end up as a saber battle. Greivous acrobatic abilities will get him to Vader faster than Vader can execute and force attack.

Just so you know, EU Greivous has experienced a force crush and it had had very little effect. Also the crush was performed by Mace Windu, an extremely powerful force user who wouldnt be far off Vaders force skill and power. Greivous walked away with nothing but a cough. Now, with this in mind, Vaders force prowess is going to have little effect in this fight.

Originally posted by Rampant ox
Thats bullsh*t and you know it. How the [b]hell is Vader going to pull of an advanced and difficult move like Crush against someone like Greivous. Simple answer: He's not
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Originally posted by Rampant ox

This is EU General Greivous, and advanced killing machine who has shown us some pretty spectacular stuff. Dodging force pushes and killing multiple jedi at once come to mind. He is stronger physically than Vader due to the fact he is completely metal. Therefore his attacks are going to beat Vader back, not the other way around. He also wields [b]4 blades at once, usually using them at lightning speeds. Now, how the holy hell is Vader meant to defend against this? He is embarrasingly slow, struggling to keep up with the attacks of the untrained Luke Skywalker. I see absolutely no way that Vader is going to win a lightsaber battle - and chances are its going to end up as a saber battle. Greivous acrobatic abilities will get him to Vader faster than Vader can execute and force attack.[/B]

Originally posted by Rampant ox

Just so you know, EU Greivous has experienced a force crush and it had had very little effect. Also the crush was performed by Mace Windu, an extremely powerful force user who wouldnt be far off Vaders force skill and power. Greivous walked away with nothing but a cough. Now, with this in mind, Vaders force prowess is going to have little effect in this fight.

By the way, A battle field tank is 10x the size of GG and if vader could dispose of one in a matter of seconds dont you think he can do the same to GG? Especially if GG CANNOT and will not use the force?

O and how bout this, vader has been known to suspend his opponents in the air as he did to the jedi in the purge, then couldnt he keep bashing GG on the ground?

End of story

I think you are wrong on several different levels there Kadesh but ill argue the point in the morning. Night all. 😉

LOL, based on the polls, I am concluding Rampant is the only one who voted that Grievous pwns!!!

A little, not much. LOE states that he can swing his lightsabers 16 times per second, so.

Quote please. Just to make sure. And it's a clear exaggeration. 16 times per second! Than Grievous must move faster than LOTF Luke!!!

Who says he sued no effort? I can only remember him blockign a Force Push. And why couldn't he block one while running

He threw a pillar (which is like 30 ft tall) back while running. Not even stopping.

Nope. He yells loud and it collapses. I'm serious.

Nevertheless, he's exaggerated.

Nope, like you said, he has a really strong throat.

Sorry, exaggerated.

Darth Sith, Clone Wars is an exaggeration:

Yoda: Lifted up a huge tank, threw it in a ship, lifted the ship, and crashed it into another ship. Trust me, it's way out ofYodas power range.
Mace: If you've seen anything with Mace, you'll know. Punching through armies of droids, hijacking a ship using hid lightsaber and grabbing some wires, jumping and surviving what looks like a kilometer....
Asajj: Throws a huge pillar with the force, kils off clones with the force.
Anakin: Throws a pillar, weighing more than the pod Sidious threw at Yoda, and traveling faster, uphill without slowing it's momentum first, while charging, using a simple two- fingered push.
Obi Wan: Drops from a ridiculously high height (along with Anakin) to go kill a massive amount of droids.
Greivous: Look at him. There's no way he's not an exaggeration. Especially given the nature of the show.

Also, other characters such as Kit, Luminara, Barris, and many others were shown in a similar fashion(and Commander Cody and Durge, to a lesser degree). Characters durability is also unfathomable at some points.

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Darth Sith, Clone Wars is an exaggeration:

Yoda: Lifted up a huge tank, threw it in a ship, lifted the ship, and crashed it into another ship. Trust me, it's way out ofYodas power range.
Mace: If you've seen anything with Mace, you'll know. Punching through armies of droids, hijacking a ship using hid lightsaber and grabbing some wires, jumping and surviving what looks like a kilometer....
Asajj: Throws a huge pillar with the force, kils off clones with the force.

Anakin: Throws a pillar, weighing more than the pod Sidious threw at Yoda, and traveling faster, uphill without slowing it's momentum first, while charging, using a simple two- fingered push.

Obi Wan: Drops from a ridiculously high height (along with Anakin) to go kill a massive amount of droids.

Greivous: Look at him. There's no way he's not an exaggeration. Especially given the nature of the show.

So in otherwords every single f*cking Grievous is an exaggeration except ROTS Grieovus, then.

No! CW Grievous is an exaggeration. LOE Grievous is not an exaggeration (except the line where you claimed it said his sabers move 16 per second). ROTS Grievous is not an exaggeration. It's ridiculous how with one Force Crush, a CW highly powered Grievous turns into a ROTS Grievous who gets owned by Kenobi.

Originally posted by Prodigal Knight
No! CW Grievous is an exaggeration. LOE Grievous is not an exaggeration (except the line where you claimed it said his sabers move 16 per second). ROTS Grievous is not an exaggeration. It's ridiculous how with one Force Crush, a CW highly powered Grievous turns into a ROTS Grievous who gets owned by Kenobi.

Again, CW Grievous is identical to LOE Grievous! What part don't you get about that?! If one is overexaggerated then they both are, and so if every single Grievous besides ROTS Grievous!

All right, CW Mace is identical to Shatterpoint Mace or LOE Mace. I gues CW Mace can mutilate Grievous since he took an entire army and he probably punch Grievous to death. CW Grievous is same as LOE Grievous in terms of character. In terms of how they show each others powers, they're totally different because CW Grievous seems to be more powerful.

Originally posted by Prodigal Knight
LOL, based on the polls, I am concluding Rampant is the only one who voted that Grievous pwns!!!

No, I voted that GG wins with difficulty. Athough I am starting to think that the General would pwn this fight. 😐

Well it's currenty 7-3 in Vader's favor though whoever posted Grievous pwns must be joking......