Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
Are you able to know 100% when a rape has taken place?If so, you can in clear conscience back the measure.
I don't believe I have ever suggest one can know for definitive weather a rape has taken a place or not.
Rape is a social problem, and it does not stream out of urge, and cannot be solved by castrating men, or whatever.
Even if I can know for sure that someone has raped someone else, I am not sure I would support the measure of castration, still.
Originally posted by Shalimar_fox
Why do people alway think it's the male whose always the rapist.
Originally posted by Strangelove
Because female rape is hard to prove
Because male rape is the most common. Female being raped happens far more disproportionaly than other way around. Far far more so.
Same with domestic violence.
More men get raped by males, then they do by females. Furthermore, around 90% of males who rape other males are hetrosexual.
Originally posted by BackFireBeing isolated from the public because of a mistake they made seems a little harsh and unjustly to me. But that's just my opinion.
They have the option of getting an education and they do have to do work while in prison. All while being withheld from the public so they don't hurt or kill or rape anyone else.
Originally posted by lil bitchinessI'd like to see where that statistic came from.
Because male rape is the most common. Female being raped happens far more disproportionaly than other way around. Far far more so.
Same with domestic violence.More men get raped by males, then they do by females. Furthermore, around 90% of males who rape other males are hetrosexual.
Re: Should rapists be castrated?
Originally posted by Leo.M
What do you think? Should they be castrated?I think convicted rapist should be castrated. Not all convicted rapist spend their rest of their lives in jail. Some get out at an able enough age to do it again.
Umm no. That would classify as "cruel and unusual" punishment, which the bill of rights protects everyone from. And besides - men who have been castrated - still have the ability to fantasize and commit lude sexual crimes. So the only way that I can think of(clinically speaking) - to completely rid many of these individuals from illegal sexual desires, would be lobotomization(which is a very cruel form of punishment - unto itself).
This of course is adressing the argument from a secular perspective - being a Christian, I believe that rape is just another *spiritual issue*(sin) - and urges to commit such an act can be overcome through faith in Christ.
But lets hypothetically say such a law was passed - can you imagine -- how many men, would be wrongfully castrated from false accusations?
And what about those who commit statuatory rape - should they be punished with such severity as well?? Or how about women who rape -- should there be some form of female castration performed on them?
So anyway...such a punishment -- would definitely not pan out well for a society(in my opinion).
Originally posted by lord xyz
I would like to ask how removal of testicles or ovaries could n any way stop a rapist in the same way cuttting off their limbs would stop them.
It's kinda hard to put your penis into something when you don't have it.
But cutting of any body part is just cruel punishment and can not be justified... At least not with the justice systems most western country's have.
Originally posted by lord xyz
Being isolated from the public because of a mistake they made seems a little harsh and unjustly to me. But that's just my opinion.I'd like to see where that statistic came from.
American Journal of Psychiatry Number 137 Volume7 - “Male Rape: Offenders and Victims.”
By Groth, A. Nicholas and Ann W. Burgess.
It is useful to read
Male on Male Rape: The Hidden Toll of Stigma and Shame
by Scarce
See also-
British Journal of Criminology, Attrition in Rape crisis - Developing a profile and Identiying relevant factors.
by Susan J. Lea Ursula Lanvers and Steve Shaw
If you are at University you should have no problem accessing these via electronic library from your blackboard (or studentcentral).
In short, if you want, it is argued that Rape is used to degrade, and humiliate, not for sexual gratification - hence majority of men who rape men identify themselves as hetrosexuals.
I don't know whether it has been said or not, but rape is generally an act that's less about sexual gratification than it is about power and aggression.
If you castrated a rapist, and they were inclined to that way of thinking, you would change nothing. They would most likely just act out their aggresion in a different, if not more severe, manner.
Originally posted by KharmaDog
I don't know whether it has been said or not, but rape is generally an act that's less about sexual gratification than it is about power and aggression.If you castrated a rapist, and they were inclined to that way of thinking, you would change nothing. They would most likely just act out their aggresion in a different, if not more severe, manner.
👆 Exactly right!
Originally posted by lil bitchiness"Most men who rape men identify themselves as hetrosexual."
American Journal of Psychiatry Number 137 Volume7 - “Male Rape: Offenders and Victims.”By Groth, A. Nicholas and Ann W. Burgess.
It is useful to read
Male on Male Rape: The Hidden Toll of Stigma and Shame
by ScarceSee also-
British Journal of Criminology, Attrition in Rape crisis - Developing a profile and Identiying relevant factors.
by Susan J. Lea Ursula Lanvers and Steve ShawIf you are at University you should have no problem accessing these via electronic library from your blackboard (or studentcentral).
In short, if you want, it is argued that Rape is used to degrade, and humiliate, not for sexual gratification - hence majority of men who rape men identify themselves as hetrosexuals.
I think I'll take that statistic with a very small pinch of salt.