Originally posted by manjaro
if im not mistaken the man of miracles is THE actual "God" of his company, so i'll take him
I'm not sure, whom I will go with, they seem about equal, if not MoM have the upper hand.
Originally posted by Lord UrizenGoku is basically the most powerful character in Dragon Ball Z, so that means he can fight with TOAA, right?
MOM is Mother, she has no real gender.Pre-Retconned Beyonder has more displayed feats, however it's a hard toss up.
MOM is the most powerful character in Image, so I say just flip a coin.
Originally posted by bigbran
Goku is basically the most powerful character in Dragon Ball Z, so that means he can fight with TOAA, right?
Bad analogy on my part.
We don't have enough to go on. Beyonder is obviously rediculously powerful, but in Image, it is not certain whether or not the Universe is infinite or finite.
However, MOM has countless children, and they are all the equivalent of God and Satan.
Take a look at feats/Facts for a sec:
Pre Retconned Beyonder:
1) Erased and Revived Multi Death
2) Destroyed a Galaxy instantly
3) Is millions of times more powerful than the marvel multiverse combined
4) Every bacteria and micro organism bowed to him
5) Played with Marvel like it was a fkn joke
6) Is omnipotent, can do whatever the fck he wants
MOM:
1) Created the Image Universe
2) Created God and Satan
3) Fused Spawn's heart with 6000 other souls
4) Banished God and Satan from Heaven and Hell, made them reborn as children
5) Is the greatest power in Image
6) Froze Spawn, Zera, God, and Satan in Time
7) Is Omniscient- can see all that occurs in her universe.
8)CANNOT DIE OR BE DESTROYED- this fact is based on the logic that since Urizen cannot die, and Urizen is an inhabitant of MOM's Universe, she being wayyyy more powerful than Urizen cannot die or be destroyed either.
9) Rewrote Earth's History so that Wanda never gave birth to Katie and Jake (God and Satan)
10) Turned Spawn into a God
Classic Beyonder made the original Marvel Multiverse seem like a toy to him.....his power was beyond what we can truly measure.
MOM created everything that exists in Image. Image has shown parallel realities (Curse of the Spawn, Godslayer, alternate timelines, etc.), but MOM has made it clear that she is in the center of all of that. It is unclear whether or not the Image Universe is infinite, however, it is implied as such since MOM has infinite children, all the equals of God and Satan.
Classic Beyonder is immature, uncertain, and in self-conflict. MOM is not. MOM is intelligent, compassionate, fair, strong minded, and clear. MOM is logical, while Classic Beyonder is illogical.
There is no surefire way to determine who wins. You have to just take your pick, and justify why.
Re: Man of Miracles vs [Pre-retcon] Beyonder
Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU❌ Thanos /w/ THOTI is more powerful then Beyonder ever was...... and don't throw around that "well Beyonder had the power of the writers" crap, because that dosen't equate to any sort of feat....
Both the most powerful fictional characters created by their company
This is just another "God v.s. Beyonder thread" people will just bring their own oppinions into it, so its ultimatley a pointless thread.
Re: Re: Man of Miracles vs [Pre-retcon] Beyonder
Originally posted by Galan007
❌ Thanos /w/ THOTI is more powerful then Beyonder ever was...... and don't throw around that "well Beyonder had the power of the writers" crap, because that dosen't equate to any sort of feat....This is just another "God v.s. Beyonder thread" people will just bring their own oppinions into it, so its ultimatley a pointless thread.
Re: Re: Re: Man of Miracles vs [Pre-retcon] Beyonder
Originally posted by Thanos_THOTUThanos "couldn't" kill her, or he overlooked her? Because I believe Warlock said that Thanos "overlooked" Death during his frenzy.
Beyonder killed Death, Thanos [B]coulden't.[/B]
Originally posted by Thanos_THOTUHe didn't die when he restored the "multiverse"
Thanos [B]had to die to restore the "universe" he absorbed. [/B]
Re: Re: Re: Re: Man of Miracles vs [Pre-retcon] Beyonder
Originally posted by Galan007
Thanos "couldn't" kill her, or he overlooked her? Because I believe Warlock said that Thanos "overlooked" Death during his frenzy.
He didn't die when he restored the "multiverse"
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Man of Miracles vs [Pre-retcon] Beyonder
Originally posted by Thanos_THOTUWarlock never once said that. I have the comic in front of me right now, and I can provide scans if need be........ can you?
She is beyond your reach - Rings a bell?
Originally posted by Thanos_THOTUand in the comic it also said Thanos was bonded with the "omni-reality" 😉
In the comics it said universe.
Originally posted by Thanos_THOTUThanos didn't die, in the official Annihilation bio for Thanos, under threat level it clearly says "One time reality ender"
And yes he died. Or at least dissapeared.