Man of Miracles vs [Pre-retcon] Beyonder

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First page: He confirms that he destroyed the 616 universe.
All reality, not realities.
One of Mr Master scans even confirms that All reality = One universe.
http://img170.imageshack.us/my.php?image=eternityaspectisallreality24ke.jpg
Multi-Eternity wasent created before the Abraxas arc.
Besides, Multi-Eternity have a little red spot on his body, which looks like a red-sun.

and in the comic it also said Thanos was bonded with the "omni-reality" 😉

Omni-reality = Omni[Greek] = All- = All-reality, still not realities

Thanos didn't die, in the official Annihilation bio for Thanos, under threat level it clearly says "One time reality ender"

Here it is outlined in red, so you don't miss it:


I let this scan speak for itself:

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For she as well exist outside this poor reality, which means, Thanos have only affect one reality, and that's why Azela and Co survived.

Universe ... Again ... Not even that, he even says that he survived because he was outside this "reality"

Originally posted by Mordum
Ownage if the third degree right there.

Stupidity at it finest, did you even read his ´scans´.
Universal - reality One time ender.

He ended one universe (reality) once.

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Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
First page: He confirms that he destroyed the 616 universe.

I dont see it.... where does it say anywhere that it was the 6 1 6 Universe.

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Originally posted by thedude1948
I dont see it.... where does it say anywhere that it was the [b]6 1 6 Universe. [/B]

616 = Original universe ... You could se it at the character's as well, Spider-man, Thor ect.
Atzela's realm, or "pocket universe" is outside the 616th, Franklin Richard's created pocket universe's at the age of 5.

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Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
616 = Original universe ... You could se it at the character's as well, Spider-man, Thor ect.

In handbooks it says that Marvel: The End happened in the 4321 Universe not 616.

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Originally posted by thedude1948
In handbooks it says that Marvel: The End happened in the 4321 Universe not 616.

Well maybe it was, perhaps a mirror universe (exactly the same, just different timeline) -- Still one universe - No?

Odd how you seemed to ignore everything I posted 🙄

Though I could still prove you wrong, I don't care to type anymore then I have to. Plus Mr. M explains it best. Please read this before you post more of your "proof"

Originally posted by Mr Master
Here's the tale of the tape:

If you take a few minutes to read, perhaps it'll sink in:

The Omniversal Architecture

When Warlock first exited the Multi-verse, he entered a place called the Cosmic Vortex.

In it, an INFINITE number of MULTI-VERSES are spiralling upward, while below lies Oblivion, (the ultimate Abstract in terms of everlasting), swallowing Multi-verses that collapse, are nullified, have a weakened Anchor (like Atleza) ect...

These are MULTI-VERSES!

When I realized that Thanos DID in fact, Absorb MORE than just a UNIVERSE, that he actually absorbed ALL he could (which is the MULTI-VERSE)

Here Thanos ABSORBS LT, ETERNITY and INFINITY

Thanos ABSORBED ETERNITY and INFINITY and [B]there is still Space and star stuff behind him


This is not a designed attack, he's saying it himself "it's Out of Control"

Like a raging drunk, who's not selective in a brawl, anything in the way goes, and with that KIND of Power, that means everything goes. (like it did)

I felt I had to add this to the equation:

When a UNIVERSE is ERASED or ABSORBED, it's ETERNITY that DISAPPEARS:

The Ultimate Nullifier ERASING a UNIVERSE:

Realize it's ETERNITY that's being ERASED.

And AGAIN, now a MULTI-VERSE is ERASED by the Ultimate Nullifier:

Realize it's ETERNITY (Multi-Eternity) that's being ERASED.

Continues in the next post... [/B]

Originally posted by Mr Master
Continues...

Let us proceed:

Here it continues,

(REMEMBER, NOW this is AFTER he ABSORBED, LT, Eternity & Infinity)

[B]Watch, and Read

"For IF this BAND (the Living Tribunal, ETERNITY/INFINITY) Could Defy Me...might not OTHERS* be equally Foolish?"

"Could I ALLOW ANY to question my divine AUTHORITY?"

"NO....So I CONTINUED to Absorb ALL that MIGHT THREATEN my REIGN...Until....

See...He's absorbing MORE SPACE now, WHERE is this SPACE coming from if he already absorbed ALL of Space and Time?

WHERE!!!

I'll answer that,

It has to be coming from the Multi-verse, there is no other way to look at it.
*(That's WHO these OTHERS are that MIGHT be equally foolish, the rest of Space, in other words, the MULTI-VERSE)

WHO else COULD question his AUTHORITY, except anyone left in the MULTI-VERSE,

WHO else can THREATEN his REIGN?

CAN'T be the UNIVERSE or the Living Tribunal, he just ABSORBED the UNIVERSE (Eternity/Infinity remember) and LT.

Now your saying to yourself, fine, that conclusively despicts Thanos absorbing the Multi-verse.

But Mr M showed scans of the Cosmic Vortex, where an INFINITE number of Multi-verses are,

How could Thanos have absorbed ALL he could, when he ONLY absorbed ONE Multi-verse?

Now we go back to the OMNIVERSAL structure:

The OMNI-VERSE and the rest of the Multi-verses rest with in the Cosmic Vortex.

See those little Purple Balls, thats where Atleza is (the Cosmic Anchor of the "616" Multi-verse)...

and every little Purple Ball is the Domain of an Anchor of a Multi-verse ...

Each Domain is Outside the Multiverse...Untouched by Space or Time....

The much bigger Blue Balls represent EACH a Multi-verse, and the SUM of the Blue Balls is the Omni-verse.

Anything Outside the Blue Balls is Untouched by Space & Time,
which Multi-Eternity/Infinity encompass.

See how the Blue Balls (Multi-verses) are separate from each other, and how the little Purple Balls (the Anchor's domain) are separated from the Blue Balls.

This is why Atleza, Gamora and Warlock were untouched, they were there, in A little Purple Ball, (the Anchors domain, Outside it's respective Multi-verse)

This is why Thanos could not absorb more, he absorbed everything within that Blue Ball (a Multi-verse) and evidently, he could not reach any furthur


"Nothing Remained"

Remember he was "Out of Control"

He kept on absorbing till there was nothing left for him to absorb (literally), HAD he been able to absorb everything Outside his Multi-verse, it would have been no problem with TOAA's power,

But Thanos was NOT able to do it, meaning that's as FAR as TOAA permitted his power to be used, absorption of a Multi-verse and Remaking that same Multi-verse, even though being the most powerful being in the Omni-verse. [/B]

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Stupidity at it finest, did you even read his ´scans´.
Universal - reality One time ender.

He ended one universe (reality) once.

So did you read the scans I posted? I'm guessing you didn't, because if you would have read them, you would have noted that the bio says Universal/one time reality ender they are 2 completely different things in the bio, please read them again....
Under threat level it clearly says "Universal(SLASH)One time reality ender"

Here it is outlined in red, so you don't miss it:

Thanos was a Universal threat when he obtained the IG. Thanos litterally became one with eternity, he litterally was the universe, but was he a complete reality ender????? Nope ❌

He was a Reality ender when he obtained "The heart of the Infinite" and absorbed the Multiverse. Proof was given just above that shows that Thanos DID in fact absorb more then a single universe, and not just one universe.

Please read everything that I have posted before you respond again.

Originally posted by Galan007

Yeah the post by Mr M, wonder why he almost never post he entire page ...
It clearly said one reality or universe, the worlds "realities" and "Multi-verse" was never used, not in the entire comic ...

Originally posted by Galan007
So did you read the scans I posted? I'm guessing you didn't, because if you would have read them, you would have noted that the bio says [b]Universal/one time reality ender they are 2 completely different things in the bio, please read them again....
Under threat level it clearly says "Universal(SLASH)One time reality ender"

Here it is outlined in red, so you don't miss it:

Thanos was a Universal threat when he obtained the IG. Thanos litterally became one with eternity, he litterally was the universe, but was he a complete reality ender????? Nope ❌

He was a Reality ender when he obtained "The heart of the Infinite" and absorbed the Multiverse. Proof was given just above that shows that Thanos DID in fact absorb more then a single universe, and not just one universe.

Please read everything that I have posted before you respond again. [/B]


Each universe is one reality, don't tell me you didn't knew ...
The "Infinity being" the big bang of creation of the universe.
Same being as in the Infinity gem's -- Except for that his it is heart, its main power source ...

Than we have HotU >> IG ... True
But Magus with the IG did only affect the 616-universe and an other he created. He could not effect anything else.

Then the Ultimate Nullifier, before Quasar said that he was going to fire it at Magus he said something like this: If I do a single misstake I might flush the entire universe down the tube.

So how did the Nullifier end the Multi-verse?
Simply, Reed just deleted and remade Multi-Eternity ...

As you probably know it can delete most of the beings in Marvel.

But belive what you wanna belive ... I really don't care. 😛

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
But belive what you wanna belive ... I really don't care. 😛
This is one thing I agree with you about. 😉

Even mr master agrees that it was the multiverse destroyed.

Originally posted by Mordum
Even mr master agrees that it was the multiverse destroyed.
Deluded fanboy? -- Cause the comics says the differ ...

I only remember that it says on panel, Universe was destroyed.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Deluded fanboy? -- Cause the comics says the differ ...
Odd how you would have the nerve to call someone a fanboy, when you have consistantly argued the rediculous claim that:

Beyonder>God

🙄

Originally posted by Galan007
Odd how you would have the nerve to call someone a fanboy, when you have consistantly argued the rediculous claim that:

Beyonder>God

🙄


No I don't, look:

God screws Beyonder in every aspect ...

I honestly don't think we have enough to go on to make a valid argument of who would win this...

Your calling mr master a delusional fanboy? cause im not the one who said it.

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Originally posted by thedude1948
I dont see it.... where does it say anywhere that it was the [b]6 1 6 Universe. [/B]

Exactly, I don't see 616 anywhere.

I do see the term "Universe" which can easily mean Multi-verse, they just prhase that way sometimes, this is why we have to look at the whole, instead of a sinlge phrase.