cloud vs zabuza

Originally posted by lightness
and some naruto chars can 1 hit kill monsters with barehands, what's your point

Not Zabuza.

[QUOTE]killed 100 ppl in a chunin exam as well as kill a lot of jounins, chunins, as well as attempt to kill the mizukage. he beat kakashi the first time untill he escaped the waterprison with sasuke/naruto's help and exhausted him the 2nd time, whose one of the strongest ninjas in naruto. mostly by himself
Cloud saved the world with help from his gang

Zabuza beat Kakashi because Kakashi was more worried about Naruto and Sasuke them, he couldn't fight all out because of them. If it wasn't for them, Kakashi would have been defeated him, like he did in their second match. And like I said, he beat weak people compared to Cloud.

and zabuza doesn't fight back himself. zabuza can drown him if theres enough water near by or flood the area while attacking with water dragons.

Did the thread starter say they are near water? Cloud will beat him anywhere though, it wouldn't matter where they fight, Cloud is to strong and fast for Zabuza.

they are different ppl, and superior in your opinion

Not superior to Cloud.

he beat seph in ac because he was arrogant and never takes him seriously.

He beat Seph because he has skills.

in ff7, he beat angel seph with a lot of help.

Well yeah, considering the guy had enough power to destroy the world, that's nothing to be ashamed of.

from what i recall seeing in ac, cloud had trouble with beamount

He fought Bahamut for a while and even knocked it down by himself. Zabuza wouldn't be able to that.

and won with the help of aeris praying and his friends tossing him higher so he can get to him.

Aries wasn't there. And I never said Cloud didn't beat him by himself.

he didn't 1 hit kill it by himself with easy.

He knocked him down by himself, whitch was the only thing I stated in my post. I never said he killed Bahamut by himself.

the creator never suggested any environment. the more water, the more advantage for zabuza.

cloud can't walk on water or dissapear into the earth while summoning clones to confuse the enemy and study weakpoints like zabuza can.

u can't judge zabuza's previous opponents who are unknown. the mizukage has got to be really powerful, eventhough zabuza didn't really succeed in overthrowing him. there's nothing suggesting he never put up a good fight.

Kakashi won the 2nd time because he can summon dogs to locate him in the mist. Cloud doesn't have any advanced senses like that and most of his summons probably won't work.

and there's nothing suggesting cloud being faster, since zabuza is a high lvl jounin who can keep up with kakashi. kakashi can dissapear to the human eye easily and constantly move as a blur from tree to tree, as well as see things in slow motion since he has the 3star sharingan.

Cloud's sword skills do seem better from av. zabuza's sword skills shown have been more sneak up and hack in 1/2 while enemy can't see in the mist.

lightness hit you with the rightness.

Cloud wins, unless zabuza has a plentiful water source most of his jutsus are useless. Nevermind the fact that executing hand seals will be a hindereance and put him in a huge disadvantage.

It is an all terain area

Zabuza dies then.

Cloud is kinda dim
Zabuza is kinda cleverish

Cloud fights Sephiroth and wins
Zabuza is beaten by Kakashi

Cloud bruatally beats Zabuza but just before he dies Zabuza explains his life story and Cloud looses his mind trying to understand a multidimensional character

*to self*

That should piss off about everbody

Zabuza can use hand signals to manipulate water, Can't cloud cast All the elements - - without using sign language? lol