Originally posted by Rogue Jedi....About as stupid as debbiejo's post.
when you murder, you erase everything they have ever done, and all that they will do. a pedophile victim can have counseling and live a halfway normal life.
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The way I see it, murder and paedophilia have so many different motives: fear, lust, sympathy, revenge etc. there are also different versions of murder and paedophilia. This thread is asking a simple question for a complex answer, which cannot be done. If one would take an average on how bad they rate the different types of paedophilia and murder, then compare the two averages of murder and paedophilia they would get a simple answer...but you can't judge bad. So we're kinda stuck.
If one would say murder is worse than paedophilia, then you're saying that Euthanasia is worse than raping an 8 yr old orphan analy. Again, if you're saying Paedophilia is worse than murder, you're saying being atracted to a young teen is worse than killing a 7,000,000 jews, or rather, Bardock's worse than Hitler.
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Originally posted by Fishy
I would disagree there, a murder often has a far greater impact on society. Especially when people are killed because of their ideals and if they are known. The murder of one movie maker in this country has done so much more wrong then a hundred rapes have. The murder of one politician can do exactly the same.For society as a whole murder often has a greater impact
Hmm..you make some interesting points. But I think the murder of one who is innocent and righteous - can have a far more beneficial affect on society, than the molestation of a child. Case in point -- you have heard of martrydom haven't you?(rhetorical question - no need to answer)
Originally posted by xmarksthespotHmm, what about passive Euthanasia, you didn't ask the person if they wanted to die, you just killed them because you thought it was best or did something that could've killed the victim but intentionally, it was for something else.
The term murder requires that the act be due to malicious intent and the act be unjustifiable. Euthanasia entails neither of these qualifiers.
Originally posted by xmarksthespotYes but it was a bold question, I don't like it when people generalise.
Meh, it is actually classified as murder in most legal systems. I just don't see how it would fit the actual description of murder.Obviously raping an 8 year old is worse than helping a terminally ill patient die at their request. But I doubt that's the type of "murder" the topic is referring to.
Originally posted by lord xyz
Yes but it was a bold question, I don't like it when people generalise.
in some situations you can assume everybody knows what you mean...
Sometimes it's not needed to explain everything thoroughly, it's like saying in my opinion at the end of every thing you say in a debate, completely useless because it's obviously your opinion.
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Originally posted by Fishy
If only Christians can innocent and righteous...Besides he did not say that only Christians can become a martyr, others can just as easily...
In other threads he stated that only Christians know real Love, and only Christians know true righteousness.
Therefore, if his logic is consistant, then he is basically saying that Murder can only apply to someone who is innocent and righteous...a Christian.
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Originally posted by Lord Urizen
In other threads he stated that only Christians know real Love, and only Christians know true righteousness.Therefore, if his logic is consistant, then he is basically saying that Murder can only apply to someone who is innocent and righteous...a Christian.
And the winner of completely distorting words - taking statements out of context, and blatant outright misrepresentation goes to --
Lord Urizen!!
Murder.
Pedophilia is a condition, a term to discribe sexual arousal caused by children. All Pedophiles don't go around raping kids, They could seek counseling and lead a normal life without ever breaking the law.
Murder is the act of killign someone. I would say an act is worse than a condition. The question almost doesn't even matter. Its almost like saying What is worse, schizophrenia or Grand Larceny?