What's worse: Pedophiles or Murderers?

Originally posted by Starhawk
So you start off saying I was wrong for what I said about PVS and end with doing the exact same thing you come after me for.

first off, i am pvs, and you said you never insult anyone. thats the point i was thwarting...and very successfully, i might add. even if i went on some diatribe and called you every foul insult in the english language and was permanently banned, my point would still have stood: you blatantly lied to everyone in saying that you dont insult people. TAAADAAAAAA! 😱

which means its about time for you to pull the old trolly bait and switch routine for the win, right?

did i just prove your whole point again?

Just one of thousands or studies

"Research studies have also revealed that money donors do not donate large sums of money for altruistic reasons or affirmation of their political beliefs. Based on a survey of donors in the 1996 presidential elections, Francia and others (1999) report that 76 percent of the respondents stated that their primary reason for donating to political candidates was to shape government policies. A 2000 poll conducted by Lake Snell Perry and Associates involving 1,000 voters and 200 donors also revealed that 54 percent of the donors spoke directly to a major elected official compared to nine percent of the voters (Lake & Borosage, 2000, p. 2). Therefore, it is evident that money exerts a significant impact in determining which political constituents are heard by their political representatives. These studies demonstrate clearly that the donor class that represents only a minority of the nation has considerably more latitude in influencing government policy than the majority of the population in the nation."

http://www.political-reform.net/money_politic.htm

Originally posted by ThePittman
You have no clue do you, how do you think the world really runs on milk and cookies. If it was up to the people big business would be paying 90% of the taxes but do you see that happening?

Let me give you an example to demonstrate. Let's say a big business wanted to make gay marriage legal because they had a line of products geared towards gay couples and wanted to make money off of it. Now let's say that company went to a republican candidate and said they would donate a huge sum of money to get that legislation passed. If the candidate went along with that they would never get elected, and if they waited till after the election to bring it up they would never get re-elected because they would've angered the base of their party and the moderates they need to win an election.

oh, so its evade and wait out the storm, and on page 120 you'll repeat that you never insult people. rest assured though, i will be here to expose the lie again ✅

Originally posted by Starhawk
Let me give you an example to demonstrate. Let's say a big business wanted to make gay marriage legal because they had a line of products geared towards gay couples and wanted to make money off of it. Now let's say that company went to a republican candidate and said they would donate a huge sum of money to get that legislation passed. If the candidate went along with that they would never get elected, and if they waited till after the election to bring it up they would never get re-elected because they would've angered the base of their party and the moderates they need to win an election.

Fail, as your example is so very specific and geared to fit your faulty views . A good and factual example would be the oil & tobacco companies, but of course you didn't use those as they destroy your every failing logic. Are you also going to tell me that Haliburton has absolutely nothing to do with American policy in Iraq?

Originally posted by Robtard
Fail, as your example is so very specific and geared to fit your faulty views . A good and factual example would be the oil & tobacco companies, but of course you didn't use those as they destroy your every failing logic. Are you also going to tell me that Haliburton has absolutely nothing to do with American policy in Iraq?

Yes and the result was the republicans being voted out of congress and most likely out of the white house in the next election.

Here's an example happening right now in my country. The environment has finally become an issue. But the Conservative party, more specifically Stephen Harper has rejected suggestions on how to improve the environment because it would hurt big business and his poll numbers are dropping because of it.

Originally posted by Starhawk
Let me give you an example to demonstrate. Let's say a big business wanted to make gay marriage legal because they had a line of products geared towards gay couples and wanted to make money off of it. Now let's say that company went to a republican candidate and said they would donate a huge sum of money to get that legislation passed. If the candidate went along with that they would never get elected, and if they waited till after the election to bring it up they would never get re-elected because they would've angered the base of their party and the moderates they need to win an election.

Originally posted by Starhawk
Yes and the result was the republicans being voted out of congress and most likely out of the white house in the next election.

Here's an example happening right now in my country. The environment has finally become an issue. But the Conservative party, more specifically Stephen Harper has rejected suggestions on how to improve the environment because it would hurt big business and his poll numbers are dropping because of it.

Originally posted by Starhawk
Yes and the result was the republicans being voted out of congress and most likely out of the white house in the next election.

Here's an example happening right now in my country. The environment has finally become an issue. But the Conservative party, more specifically Stephen Harper has rejected suggestions on how to improve the environment because it would hurt big business and his poll numbers are dropping because of it.

Originally posted by Starhawk
Yes and the result was the republicans being voted out of congress and most likely out of the white house in the next election.

Here's an example happening right now in my country. The environment has finally become an issue. But the Conservative party, more specifically Stephen Harper has rejected suggestions on how to improve the environment because it would hurt big business and his poll numbers are dropping because of it.

I did, this is a perfect example of a politicians going with big business and his support suffering because of it.

Originally posted by Starhawk
Yes and the result was the republicans being voted out of congress and most likely out of the white house in the next election.

Here's an example happening right now in my country. The environment has finally become an issue. But the Conservative party, more specifically Stephen Harper has rejected suggestions on how to improve the environment because it would hurt big business and his poll numbers are dropping because of it.

LOL, I think it's just a little bit more complex than that and not so cut and dry. Also, [historically] American Presidents (with only a very few exceptons) have lost seats in the House in midterm elections and that is a fact. You fail (again).

Originally posted by Starhawk
I did, this is a perfect example of a politicians going with big business and his support suffering because of it.

Do you have any proof that he was getting contributions from big business or is he just stating his opinion? That is not a perfect example, as I said he is a moron.

Originally posted by ThePittman
So what, it is because he is a moron.

Do you have any proof that he was getting contributions from big business or is he just stating his opinion? That is not a perfect example, as I said he is a moron.

I would have too look into that as campaign contributions are a matter of public record. But I don't see big business funding the liberals or the NDP.

Originally posted by Starhawk
I would have too look into that as campaign contributions are a matter of public record. But I don't see big business funding the liberals or the NDP.

Then go look and state facts before you rant. Big business funds all parties in one form or another, that's politics. You fail (again).

anyone feel like looking up campaign funding for the 2004 presidential campaign?

Originally posted by Robtard
Then go look and state facts before you rant. Big business funds all parties in one form or another, that's politics. You fail (again).

LOL If you knew anything about Canadian politics you would know big business is not funding the NDP. Unions fund them.

For that to be a perfect example you would have to show that he is rejecting the changes due to support from big business or that he was given money to one of his pet projects. He could be stating his opinion that the changes will effect big business, which is a given, and then in turn hurt the consumer with increased cost in goods which could lead into loss of jobs as their profit would be affected. Again you fail to grasp this concept and I have already sited that big business has major influence in politics, please site one resource that supports your view. As a “law-student” you must be able to site example to back up your claims and reasons but you should know that all ready.

Originally posted by Starhawk
LOL If you knew anything about Canadian politics you would know big business is not funding the NDP. Unions fund them.

Originally posted by ThePittman
For that to be a perfect example you would have to show that he is rejecting the changes due to support from big business or that he was given money to one of his pet projects. He could be stating his opinion that the changes will effect big business, which is a given, and then in turn hurt the consumer with increased cost in goods which could lead into loss of jobs as their profit would be affected. Again you fail to grasp this concept and I have already sited that big business has major influence in politics, please site one resource that supports your view. As a “law-student” you must be able to site example to back up your claims and reasons but you should know that all ready.

I should know that? You think every law student knows all the campaign funding history of each party?

And they are rejecting the changes because if they do those big business will be hurt financially and won't support them in the next election, but the fact that it is the will of the majority and they are ignoring it will hurt them even more.

Originally posted by Starhawk
I did, this is a perfect example of a politicians going with big business and his support suffering because of it.

The fact you leave out that the media bashes Bush for lying to America about the war is interesting. Bad publicity of Pat Tillman alone is killing support for the war.

The issue is far more complex than just supporting big business. Here's a fun fact: THE MAJORITY OF AMERICANS DO NOT LIKE BIG BUSINESS BECAUSE THEY **** THEM OVER, BUT BUSH WAS ELECTED (I use this very, very loosely) TWICE.

Damn you are simple.