Originally posted by Space M ummy
Understanding? nah. He's already shown a poor understanding of his own scans, and ignores the very good points of others when brought up.If I have to hear "imperiex is a big bang in a suit!" one more time
when his own scans say otherwise, I'll probably scream. 😠
Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Imperiex releasing the Big Bang by his own power.
Originally posted by Starhawk
Wonderfull, well thought out counter arguement. I can see you really stretched the limits of your grammatical abilities there."lol It may be PIS, but on many occassions the Marvel Earth has driven back Big G. So it makes sense that they could take out Imperiex.
like I said Dr strange and Sentry and Scarlet Witch and Rachel could hold him off till Reed, TOny, Doom, and Forge create the device.
And don't talk abotu one-shotting the Earth cause and the planet only having like a second to respond.
1) In order to do it he would have one sided-prep, in order to make it a fair fight both sides have to know the battle is comming. And you might as well just make the thread "Does Imperiex have the ability to blow up a planet?" Cause if your giving him one sided prep and earth's superpowered heroes and villians only like a second to respond then you might as well just call it that.
2) Even so the Earth has many very cosmicly aware beings who would sense him comming and prepare. "
I get that your a fan of Imperiex and you are trying to build up him on this forum. Why not make something more realistic like "Imperiex vs Galactus"?
Still haven't countered the above arguements Juggy.
Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Selective quoting. Galactus has been stalemated by Sentry (offpanel), Stalemated by strange (on panel) had his powers TOTALLY STOLEN by doom during secret wars, Sent screaming into space by JUST THOR , Stopped by Marvel earth simply pounding the crap out of him in exiles etc.
there are just as many examples of Galactus LOSING to marvel earth, if not more so.
Oh, and your scan says nothing about that being a big bang. just looks like a standard energy assault to me.
Originally posted by Space M ummy
Selective quoting. Galactus has been stalemated by Sentry (offpanel), Stalemated by strange (on panel) had his powers TOTALLY STOLEN by doom during secret wars, Sent screaming into space by JUST THOR , Stopped by Marvel earth simply pounding the crap out of him in exiles etc.there are just as many examples of Galactus LOSING to marvel earth, if not more so.
Oh, and your scan says nothing about that being a big bang. just looks like a standard energy assault to me.
Originally posted by juggernaut66666
You are an idiot if you think Dr Strange stalemating Galactus isn't bad writing.
Your entire debating skills boil down to calling someone an idiot.
Strange defeated the in betweener with NO PREP by summoning Chaos and Order itself.
Strange can merge with Eternity if he chooses, increasing his abilities.
Strange can Call on the full power of the vishanti if necessary. When Galactus was unable to hurt JUST Agamotto. (agamotto= 1 out of 3 of the Vishanti, FYI)
Strange fought and defeated Shuma Gorath, a being who was SO powerful just stepping INTO 616 after absorbing it's powers would have annihiliated the universe in seconds.
Full power strange can take on anyone, prep be damned and the fact you DIDNT know this shows how ignorant you are of his abilities.
now who's the idiot?
Good fight. Not sure of the sitution though. If this is like OWAW then the heroes could probably hold him of long enough for reed to take out one of the vast amount of plot deviced weapons he keeps in storage. They could hit him with reeds big bang cannon and open a portal to the negative zone and blow him through. Not sure how the universe would be affected in the end though. I wonder what a Big Bang in the negative zone would do to 616?
Originally posted by juggernaut66666
You think that Sentry ,Dr Strange and Scarlet Witch can handle Galactus who has effortlesly destroyed the Universe.
They could easily hold him off long enough for Tony, Reed, Doom, and Forge to make a device to deal with them. Reed has trapped Big G in the past.
And alternate Universe stuff is non-canon and meaningless
Originally posted by Soujaboy
Current Marvel earth dies, Classic Marvel earth drives him off. Currently Marvel earth has half the hero's they once had, and most of them are street lv characters.
Now this is interesting. Who in classic marvel is missing that would make a difference? Keep in mind Thor isn't dead, just sleeping.
Originally posted by Space M ummy
Your entire debating skills boil down to calling someone an idiot.Strange defeated the in betweener with NO PREP by summoning Chaos and Order itself.
Strange can merge with Eternity if he chooses, increasing his abilities.
Strange can Call on the full power of the vishanti if necessary. When Galactus was unable to hurt JUST Agamotto. (agamotto= 1 out of 3 of the Vishanti, FYI)
Strange fought and defeated Shuma Gorath, a being who was SO powerful just stepping INTO 616 after absorbing it's powers would have annihiliated the universe in seconds.
Full power strange can take on anyone, prep be damned and the fact you DIDNT know this shows how ignorant you are of his abilities.
now who's the idiot?
The chaos and order feat isn't a permanent feature it was sort of a call for the occasion sort of thing, without a doubt Stranges one badass you wouldn't want to mess with but he certainly isn't unbeatable.
Originally posted by Supreme being
The chaos and order feat isn't a permanent feature it was sort of a call for the occasion sort of thing, without a doubt Stranges one badass you wouldn't want to mess with but he certainly isn't unbeatable.
LOL. *ALL* of strange's high end feats are "call for the occasion" type of things. It's kind of part of his character. Nonetheless, he's done it on panel and it's canon, unless there's an explicit reason why he couldnt.
I never said strange was totally unbeatable, that would be silly. but taking strange *at his strongest, with no PIS/CIS* as forum battles should be, he's a threat to almost anything out there.
Also note that vs. Imperiex, I thought strange's most important ability was the time-stop, which imperiex has no ability to counter.
The Super Destroyer is the real threat here- and yes it's still around.
Originally posted by juggernaut66666
"I ask you then will you to give your self to Daxam to undergo the enhancement of the power of the yellow sun and fight to save our world"
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/juggernaut666666/1-20.jpg"A hundered thousand warriors agains a single being. I pray we had a million more to send against him"
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/juggernaut666666/2-14.jpgImperiex kills all of them (and that wasn't even Imperiex prime just a probe)
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/juggernaut666666/3-14.jpg"For when I return in that nite to the collected Universes I will know who to destroy first"
http://thedoug.superman.ws/Villains/imperiex3.jpg
I call extreme bullshit on these pics though.
He fought Daxamites in suits that supplied them with yellow sunlight.
He broke the suits, and they're immediately depowered.
Bullshit.
Why?
Cuz Daxamites are more powerful than Kryptonians. And one measly kryptonian was able to stalemate the invasion on Earth?
Loeb didn't even bother to try and explain that one away. The power levels in this story were all over the place.
