Originally posted by UniOmni
I call extreme bullshit on these pics though.He fought Daxamites in suits that supplied them with yellow sunlight.
He broke the suits, and they're immediately depowered.
Bullshit.
Why?
Cuz Daxamites are more powerful than Kryptonians. And one measly kryptonian was able to stalemate the invasion on Earth?
Loeb didn't even bother to try and explain that one away. The power levels in this story were all over the place.
like I said Dr strange and Sentry and Scarlet Witch and Rachel could hold him off till Reed, TOny, Doom, and Forge create the device.
And don't talk abotu one-shotting the Earth cause and the planet only having like a second to respond.
1) In order to do it he would have one sided-prep, in order to make it a fair fight both sides have to know the battle is comming. And you might as well just make the thread "Does Imperiex have the ability to blow up a planet?" Cause if your giving him one sided prep and earth's superpowered heroes and villians only like a second to respond then you might as well just call it that.
2) Even so the Earth has many very cosmicly aware beings who would sense him comming and prepare. "
I get that your a fan of Imperiex and you are trying to build up him on this forum. Why not make something more realistic like "Imperiex vs Galactus"?
You still havent countered this yet.
Originally posted by Space M ummy
LOL. *ALL* of strange's high end feats are "call for the occasion" type of things. It's kind of part of his character. Nonetheless, he's done it on panel and it's canon, unless there's an explicit reason why he couldnt.I never said strange was totally unbeatable, that would be silly. but taking strange *at his strongest, with no PIS/CIS* as forum battles should be, he's a threat to almost anything out there.
Also note that vs. Imperiex, I thought strange's most important ability was the time-stop, which imperiex has no ability to counter.
The Super Destroyer is the real threat here- and yes it's still around.
Of course but i was merely pointing out that strange doesn't have chaos and order at his beck and call so that the masses arnt confused.
Originally posted by Space M ummy
Now this is interesting. Who in classic marvel is missing that would make a difference? Keep in mind Thor isn't dead, just sleeping.
90% of the mutant population is gone, Mangneto, Prf X, Classic Juggernaut, The Hulk(Although he wouldn't be much help), Thor, Genis-Vell(Recently), Quasar, etc.
Sleep or not, Thor is no longer around.
Originally posted by Soujaboy
90% of the mutant population is gone, Mangneto, Prf X, Classic Juggernaut, The Hulk(Although he wouldn't be much help), Thor, Genis-Vell(Recently), Quasar, etc.Sleep or not, Thor is no longer around.
Whether Thor is around or not is debatable- he's asleep but not dead, and is due for a return in the near future. Plus, Thor Clones! 🙂 🙂
90% of the mutant population IS gone, but honestly, most of those (except for X, which I'll give you) were useless characters that needed to be "cleaned out", so to speak. Blob, Jubilee, Stacy X, and Callisto aren't a threat to anyone. The big dogs and major players are still around, and a good chunk of the DEPOWERED ones (Quicksilver, Magneto, Chamber, Polaris) have been REPOWERED anyway.
Plus, we've ended up with new characters that take the place of the old ones. Thor is debatably gone, but Sentry exists now and is WAY stronger. Iron Man's gotten a power bump with extremis. Jaspers is merged with Fury and ressurected. Mr. M has some pretty beefy powers. Genis-Vell was never really earth based until recently, so I don't know if he really counts as an "earth" character.
current marvel is just as powerful as the old.
Originally posted by Space M ummyThor isn't even on Earth!
Whether Thor is around or not is debatable- he's asleep but not dead, and is due for a return in the near future. Plus, Thor Clones! 🙂 🙂
Originally posted by bigbran
Thor isn't even on Earth!
He is sleeping where Asgard was!
Sure he is sleeping, but it would be more relevent if he was actually on Earth, now wouldn't it be?
Originally posted by Space M ummy
Galactus has been stalemated by Sentry (offpanel), Stalemated by strange (on panel) had his powers TOTALLY STOLEN by doom during secret wars, Sent screaming into space by JUST THOR , Stopped by Marvel earth simply pounding the crap out of him in exiles etc.there are just as many examples of Galactus LOSING to marvel earth, if not more so.
Originally posted by bigbran
Do I actually have to adress how dumb that was?
Let's get back on topic..
OWAW story was pretty stupid since (Jeph Loeb wrote it) when the first Probe appeared took out 100,000 Daxamites and like Uniomi said they were around Superman level in strenght later on Superman shows up and beats the crap out of the Probe.....while later on another Probe was stalemating the JLA for a very long time Which doesn't really make sense
So if we are considering the 1st case then 2 or 3 probes can take out Marvel Earth if the we consider the 2nd it will take a few millions of them..
Anyway those things still doesn't change the fact that Imperiex could release the Big Bang destroying everything...
Edit : Dc Earth was only able to get rid of War World which that time had absorbed Imperiex's energy form because they have had the aid of Apokolips and Darkseid and they were able to open a Boom Tube and Sundipped Superman was able War World threw it and it ended up in the Begining of Time. If there were no Boom Tube the whole Dc Universe would have been extinguished like Superman said if he destroys WW Imperiex's energy will destroy the Universe if he won't destroy it Braniac 13 will destroy everything 1 by 1.
Originally posted by Space M ummyOK...
Selective quoting. Galactus has been stalemated by Sentry (offpanel), Stalemated by strange (on panel) had his powers TOTALLY STOLEN by doom during secret wars, Sent screaming into space by JUST THOR , Stopped by Marvel earth simply pounding the crap out of him in exiles etc.there are just as many examples of Galactus LOSING to marvel earth, if not more so.
Oh, and your scan says nothing about that being a big bang. just looks like a standard energy assault to me.
Wasn't Galactus weak when he fought Strange? Also, I think a mix of bad writing popped in there as well.
That was actually a future Doom. Also, didn't he use Galactus's own machines/ship to do this? Does Imperiex have a ship that he has around, so people can absorb his powers?
You mean when Thor hit Galactus twice with his most powerful blow, and a godblast? Also, Galactus never faced him, but after the first hit, Galactus was about to kill Thor, until Ego saved him. The next sent him away.
But, that may sound bad, but it is still even more explainable more past that.
Thor says, in a later comic, that the only reason he was able to do this, was because Galactus was weakened by his battle with Ego...
ya, what you neglected to mention, was that Galactus was fighting Ego at this time, good job.
Wait, it goes even further:
Pis.
Hmm, isn't Exiles non-canon? Need I say more?
No, those are a few examples of some pis, non-canon, and a weakened Galactus, and things that have never been explained past one line.
Also, what you forgot to mention, was that every time Galactus goes to Earth, to feed, he is extremely weakened.
Also, does Imperiex have the problem of his power going up, and down?
If not, then not only did the things you say, were wrong/other things, but it also makes it mighty irrelevent.
Galactus is not Imperiex
To me these are facts: Galacts can destroy Marvel Earth whenever he wants to, if it has never happened is because he never intended to destroy it, but to feed from it. Strange, Thor and Sentry are all very powerful, but the thought of them facing Galactus alone is PIS, unless of course its a weakened Galactus.
Saying that the Earth has stopped Galactus before is irrelevant here, because Galactus has never meant to destroy Earth, even in the best case, we would have to agree that the result of a match when Galactus goes for the kill is unknown (personally I think that Galactus wins everytime, but for the time being we can settle with unknown). Thats just it until actual facts are shown, the rest is pure speculation.
However, we are not discussing about Galan but about Imperiex, and to me its clear that Imperiex is weaker than the big G (I would put it at a Celestial level at most). I'm not sure how fast and how powerful are those who would actually could act before Imperiex blows up the Earth, but I think it comes to that in the end. If there are people in Earth who can keep the planet from blowing by one single blow, time machines, uber beings, ultimate nullifiers and other plot devices can save the Earth, otherwise they are pretty much doomed.
Can someone in Earth keep Imperiex from one-shooting the planet at full speed?
Just got the 1st appearance of Imperiex prime where his probe was fighting Superman and Mongul he was pwning them until Superman decided to take out his ship the probe was building
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