Originally posted by Scoobless
Spidey with the Goblin's equipment should be able to beat a symbiote ... so many explosives and lasers and stuff to use.🙂
yeah, but this isn't just a symbiote with a regular host. This is a symbiote with adamantium skeleton, super healing, super senses, and extremely well trained fighter (logan >>>>>brock or cassady)
Originally posted by Scoobless
I actually think that if the host body has an enhanced healing factor that it will adversely affect the symbiote who is attempting to bond with him/her ... like a body rejecting a transplanted organ.... both healing factors would, very likely, be weakened by a merging.
i doubt it, spiderman has accelerated healing and it was never an issue of merging with him. The symbiote helps the host, not leeches off it (the very meaning of symbiosis is a mutually beneficial relationship). The symbiote is not harmful to the body in anyway.
Originally posted by Soljer
Maybe, but I'm still not convinced. I've watched Venom get beat on by 100 class bricks, take high caliber machine gun fire like it were nothing, reform from large cuts and slices, all without even flinching.
Juggernaut nearly beat him to death, as he didn't him let to time to recover Juggernaut's blows damaged the host inside and the symbiote had to use it's power to heal the host. And as we all know, healing factors can be burned out.
If the symbiote is bonded to Wolverine, it doesn't need to concern itself to heal Wolverine's body as Wolverine's body heals itself. It can focus on the durability matter.
Originally posted by Jyppe
Juggernaut nearly beat him to death, as he didn't him let to time to recover Juggernaut's blows damaged the host inside and the symbiote had to use it's power to heal the host. And as we all know, healing factors can be burned out.If the symbiote is bonded to Wolverine, it doesn't need to concern itself to heal Wolverine's body as Wolverine's body heals itself. It can focus on the durability matter.
good point. the symbiote can devote energy to more offensive capabilities.
Originally posted by Jyppe#
Juggernaut nearly beat him to death, as he didn't him let to time to recover Juggernaut's blows damaged the host inside and the symbiote had to use it's power to heal the host. And as we all know, healing factors can be burned out.If the symbiote is bonded to Wolverine, it doesn't need to concern itself to heal Wolverine's body as Wolverine's body heals itself. It can focus on the durability matter.
Just because the symbiote wouldn't have to worry about healing Logan dosn't mean he would become more durable.
Its never shown enhancing 1 power while weakening another.
Originally posted by Sparkz
#Just because the symbiote wouldn't have to worry about healing Logan dosn't mean he would become more durable.
Its never shown enhancing 1 power while weakening another.
well i think this is just common sense. If you save energy from healing, then that energy can be utilized for other things.
for example, if you are sick, you're gonna be weaker because your body spends alot of resources trying to recover and heal.
Originally posted by masterbruce
well i think this is just common sense. If you save energy from healing, then that energy can be utilized for other things.for example, if you are sick, you're gonna be weaker because your body spends alot of resources trying to recover and heal.
Myabe but if that was the case venom would become weaker after being hurt and then healing, but he dosen't
Originally posted by masterbruce
i doubt it, spiderman has accelerated healing and it was never an issue of merging with him. The symbiote helps the host, not leeches off it (the very meaning of symbiosis is a mutually beneficial relationship). The symbiote is not harmful to the body in anyway.
Spider-Man's healing is no where near Wolverine's ... and the Symbiote was no where near full strength when it was attempting to bond with him.
Originally posted by Scoobless
Spider-Man's healing is no where near Wolverine's ... and the Symbiote was no where near full strength when it was attempting to bond with him.
anyways it wouldnt matter.
Symbiote is beneficial to your body. ie if you take steroids to enhance yourself, your body doesn't try to eliminate the steroids.
Immune system only fights harmful substances, ie viruses and bacteria
Originally posted by masterbruce
Wolverine boosted with Venom would be in the 90 ton (conservative estimate) range as his adamantium skeleton will allow him to support much more force than Eddie Brock ever could.How strong would spiderman be with goblin serum?
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Eddie can bench (around 400 lbs i think ? ) So to get 11-15 tons (His strength varies*) so it times Eddies strength 75 times. Wolvie can bench 800 lbs so by going through the same process Wolverine can now lift....
30 tons.
M'kay. Spidey is already class 15-20 , goblin formula caused Norman to become a class 11 . Ergo it's Spidey is now a class 31 (Note , I'm using the highest variation of both strength stats).
Originally posted by masterbruce
basically, if the original Venom could take gunfire like nothing, this Wolvenom can probably easily shrug off rockets and bombs without blinking.
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Originally posted by masterbruce
i guess its bad if you dont want it and try to resist it. But if both you and symbiote are ok with each other (ie venom and carnage) then the bonding is perfectly fine.
You have to remember that Kasady was already a psycho and Brock wasnt a happy camper as well. It was their mindsets that were already damaged so the symbiote fed off that.
Originally posted by jrodslam
You have to remember that Kasady was already a psycho and Brock wasnt a happy camper as well. It was their mindsets that were already damaged so the symbiote fed off that.
if you're ok with the symbiote being violent you have no problems. Parker just wasn't ready to kill where as Brock and Cassidy were. As long as Wolverine isn't completely at odds with the symbiote's methods, they'll get along fine.
Originally posted by grey fox
😆Eddie can bench (around 400 lbs i think ? ) So to get 11-15 tons (His strength varies*) so it times Eddies strength 75 times. Wolvie can bench 800 lbs so by going through the same process Wolverine can now lift....
30 tons.
M'kay. Spidey is already class 15-20 , goblin formula caused Norman to become a class 11 . Ergo it's Spidey is now a class 31 (Note , I'm using the highest variation of both strength stats).
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It doesn't work that way. As far as we've seen, the Venom symbiote is NOT a multiplier, but rather, sets the status quo.
Otherwise, Gargan would be class 100+ now.
Apply a symbiote to Spiderman, and what do you get? Spiderman with unlimited webbing, and superior durability.
Apply it to Joe Blow, and you get a power house.
Also, Venom's strength has been shown to be vastly superior to class 11 already, biographies don't count for shit.