Originally posted by juggernaut66666
It is like saying if you give Juggernaut the Nega Bands he could use tem just aswell as Genis did.
Exactly. When it comes to the gems, you have to consider who is using them. Take it this way: If you give Moondragon the mind Gem, and then give it to Psylocke, Moondragon will use it more effectively, considering she knows it well. However, Thanos will have the best usage out of it. The same goes for the Nega Bands, and so forth.
Originally posted by juggernaut66666
I give all my props to Galan just because he is wasting his time with you .
We all know Galan has plenty of time to waste! j/k
I don't see Drax winning this at all. I would like to say the power gem is strong enough, but not without proper preparation and understanding. Old drax was too dumb, that is why they gave him the gem. He was tough enough to stop people from taknig it, but not smart enough to use it to its full potential.
Originally posted by Starhawk
Punisher too could use it effectively. It doesnt take a genuis to think."Hey, I have a gem that can control power itself. I'll just take his power away and give it to me."
A 6 year old could think of that.
yet countless people have not used it properly. Champion, Drax, Thor to name a few.
Originally posted by Starhawk
Juggy666, how old are you cause all you ever offer on these debates is like 2 or 3 words and some smiling faces. Why can't you offer a real conribution to the disscussion?Drax takes Supes power away and gives it to himself. then pulls a thanos on him. End of Story.
Originally posted by Starhawk
Punisher too could use it effectively. It doesnt take a genuis to think."Hey, I have a gem that can control power itself. I'll just take his power away and give it to me."
A 6 year old could think of that.
you know, I THOUGHT I heard a reference that the gem could do that, but I've never seen any scans...?
if you have any, that would be awesome. Not saying you're full of BS, but it might be useful in the future.
Originally posted by Starhawk
It's called logic. The Power gem grants the bearer total and complete control over power. Current Drax posseses a stronger intellect and could use it mroe effectively.
Obviously it doesn't as seen what the mere Power Gem is capable of. Nothing that impressive really. With the rest of the Gems and a proper wielder it seems to posses pretty much infinite strength. Alone with Drax, NO. Nothing compared to Pre-Crisis Superman.
The guy literally sneezed solar systems away, handled planets like they were ping pong balls. Before Drax had any idea what's happening Superman would already be feeding him with planets travelling warp-speed.
First a little 'get-your-facts-straight' nitpicking...
Originally posted by StarhawkThanos only had the Soul Gem at the time he fought Champion. But like you said, he didn't beat him through brute force...he outsmarted him.
Also Thanos had other Gems at that time and didn't beat the power gem through brute force.
Originally posted by Wally WestThor didn't have the Power Gem when he first beat Surfer and Warlock together...that was sheer bloodlust under his own power.
Thor beat Warlock and Strange together with the power gem,
My opinion on the topic of Drax vs. Superman: I can agree with Starhawk to a point...that if you understand what the Power Gem is and the type of power it grants a wielder, then current Drax would, without question, be far more effective with it today than he ever was as dumb Drax.
There is also no way to measure whether or not he would be a threat to PC Superman without any feats. Guesswork can only take you so far and holds little water in the face of actual feats.
Current Drax would be extremely dangerous and powerful with the Power Gem, but able to do some of the things PC Superman did? Highly unlikely. You need to turn your hyperbole filter up a little if you're relying on the statement of 'it gives him complete control over power'. Sounds a lot like Apocalypse and his ability to 'grant himself whatever power he chooses'.