Drax the Destroyer vs Superman

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Exactly. When something has no soul, that entity is beyond the Soul Gem's power. So what the hell is your point? What is your major malfunction? When something has no mind, it is beyond the Mind Gem's power. Are you that far gone that you can't realize this?
Your argumentative logic is tantamount to this: The story says the gem gives complete mastery over an aspect of existence. Characters say it gives them complete mastery, but unless someone uses a single gem in a way that I think gives them mastery, I shall conclude that they are lying or the story is faulty. I'll get back to this point at the very bottom of my post where I completely gut your pathetic logic.
Astral plane and mental powers and conscious thought are separate from corporeal power. Read enough X-Men or Dr. Strange and you'll figure that out. Energy in its matter/energy context has no affect on an astral form or a mental projection. And yes, if I knew a teleportation device or time machine was going to be used, I could cut off the power supply to it, but since the Power Gem doesn't make me a mind reader or a futurist clairivoyant, how the hell does having the Power Gem presume such knowledge that such tactics would be meaningless?
Are you a f@cking complete moron? The storyline captions state that each gem gives the bearer complete mastery over each respective aspect of existence. The characters themselves have stated and reinforced such notions. You're telling me that the story captions and the characters are wrong and/or stupid. So if anybody is arguing against the god damn status quo it's you, you complete effing moron. It is up to YOU, to show me a single case where the gem was stated to be limited in its control over its own respective field of influence when not tied to the other gems. The Adam Warlock scan shows the Soul Gem ineffectual against a being that has no god damn soul. Are you so stupid to continue to believe that such a scan supports your position? It doesn't. Show me a conversation or an action that proves WITHOUT ANY ASSUMPTION that one or any of the gems cannot provide its user with mastery over its respective field of influence. You make the most ridiculously inane assumptions with some of your so-called examples, like Mad Thor not using one-shot blows proves he couldn't use one-shot blows because you stupidly assume that he must have used it to its fullest potential. Stop assuming these things retard.

Your own argumentative logic disproves even a full IG's control over one aspect, "Well, durrr... Thanos w/ IG never sucked the souls of every single person in the universe, so he must not have had complete mastery over the Soul... durrrr." By your logic, since he never actually did such a feat, he could never do so... and yet here we are...

(By the way, you have anger issues. You should really get hep for that, or your gonna end up with high blood pressure.)

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Your own argumentative logic disproves even a full IG's control over one aspect, "Well, durrr... Thanos w/ IG never sucked the souls of every single person in the universe, so he must not have had complete mastery over the Soul... durrrr." By your logic, since he never actually did such a feat, he could never do so... and yet here we are...

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Why yes you're correct. No one has ever used the gem to the potential I described before. I was just speculating without actual proof. So until there's an instance of someone using the gem like that without the others, Supes takes this.

Why did OneDumbGo quote himself? OneDumbGo just owned himself.
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Originally posted by Badabing
Why did OneDumbGo quote himself? OneDumbGo just owned himself.
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You do realize, that by posting that, you have stooped to the lowest low I have ever seen any poster stoop to? Not only do you ignore the crux of my point in its entirety, but you fake a quote. I would think that you did it at some poor attempt at humor or sarcasm, but your logic is so horribly weak, that the overall evidence points to the fact that you're trying to misquote and lie to get your point across. That's really how bad it is. And you string badabing along with it too.

But then again, its very easy to dispel this idea of misquoting and outright lying if you tell me you're sarcastic and you address this one single point:

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Your own argumentative logic disproves even a full IG's control over all existence, "Well, durrr... Thanos w/ IG never sucked the souls of every single person in the universe, so he must not have had complete mastery over the Soul... durrrr." By your logic, since he never actually did such a feat, he could never do so... and yet here we are...

Why are you quoting yourself?eek2 🤪 eer 😑 🤨 shocking

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
The more I think about it, the more I come to realize that the gems CAN be used to full potential when they are used in conjunction with the others, but there's no evidence to lend anyone that ability with just a single gem. Otherwise, Thanos could have just blasted the shit out of the Runner instead of using the Time Gem. In fact, he could have done that with ALL the Elders. So Supes takes this.

I am repeating the point that I made. Why are you so confused badabing? Darthgoober says that unless I show a feat of person using an Infinity Gem and accomplishes full mastery of its respective aspect, then we must presume that he cannot accomplish full mastery. However, darthgoober admits that the full Infinity Gauntlet permits mastery over every single aspect. But following darthgoober's logic, Thanos never exerted power over every single soul in the universe with the full Infinity Gauntlet, and therefore darthgoober's logic presumes that Thanos w/ the full IG must never have had full mastery over the Soul. So darthgoober's logic is wrong because he's completely contradicted himself.

What is so difficult about that? I know darthgoober can't comprehend how contradictory his logic is, but it's pretty damn simple to me.

EDIT: Stop misquoting me. It is tantamount to outright lying and I've reported it to the mods. You truly are a sad individual darth.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Your own argumentative logic disproves even a full IG's control over one aspect, "Well, durrr... Thanos w/ IG never sucked the souls of every single person in the universe, so he must not have had complete mastery over the Soul... durrrr." By your logic, since he never actually did such a feat, he could never do so... and yet here we are...

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
I don't abide by stupidity much, not really no. Nice attempt at trying to divert attention away from the gaping hole in your pathetic argument. Let me quote the most pertinent part... oh wait, I already did. I get ahead of myself sometimes.

Uh oh. I'm in trouble now bada, he reported me. 😆

I requoted a point that I made and referred to darthgoober's arguments and his avoidance of addressing the most simple hole in his logic as the "stupidity." I wasn't arguing with myself.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Uh oh. I'm in trouble now bada, he reported me. 😆

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
I requoted a point that I made and referred to darthgoober's arguments and his avoidance of addressing the most simple hole in his logic as the "stupidity." I wasn't arguing with myself.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
I did. And the the most stinging part of our debate is the pure and simple fact that I utterly proved your logic to be wrong because it was self-contradictory and absolute crap. The only thing you can do is try to divert people's attention away through misquotes and poor attempts at humor and feigning disinterest at the moment of defeat. There are more graceful ways to step out of a losing debate. This was, by far the worst I have ever seen.

It is your speculation that I have a problem with. And that speculation is self-defeating. How can you reconcile your own position? You admitted that Thanos w/ full Infinity Gauntlet had complete mastery over the Soul. But at the same time, your standard is that unless a person actually performs such a feat, you cannot assume that they can do it. In fact, you ought to presume against it. Now, using this standard, what evidence are you basing full IG Thanos' complete mastery over the Soul off of? He has no on-panel feats like... destroying a soul completely... or manipulating every soul in the universe...

So if there is no on-panel feat that evidences complete mastery over the Soul with the full Infinity Gauntlet, how can you possibly believe with your logic and your standard that he does? Do you want me to spell it out for you? You believe he has full mastery over the Soul because it's logical to think so. You don't need an on-panel feat to prove that he can accomplish such a thing, you just know through pure simple logic of adding two premises together that you can conclude thusly.

So get your stupid "you're speculating" bs out of here. You are an utter hypocrite and to see you cling to this contradiction of yours so pathetically makes me hurt. At some point during this, I'm going to enjoy watching you squirm and wriggle. Right now, I'm simply disappointed with your antics and pathetic attempts to divert attention away from how utterly wrong you are.

It comes to this, admit your standard is utterly wrong and ridiculous and move on. OR, you can continue to cling to your standard and realize that you are absolutely guilty of violating that standard with your belief that Thanos w/ full IG had complete mastery over the Soul, even though there are no on-panel feats proving such.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
It is your speculation that I have a problem with. And that speculation is self-defeating. How can you reconcile your own position? You admitted that Thanos w/ full Infinity Gauntlet had complete mastery over the Soul. But at the same time, your standard is that unless a person actually performs such a feat, you cannot assume that they can do it. In fact, you ought to presume against it. Now, using this standard, what evidence are you basing full IG Thanos' complete mastery over the Soul off of? He has no on-panel feats like... destroying a soul completely... or manipulating every soul in the universe...

So if there is no on-panel feat that evidences complete mastery over the Soul with the full Infinity Gauntlet, how can you possibly believe with your logic and your standard that he does? Do you want me to spell it out for you? You believe he has full mastery over the Soul because it's logical to think so. You don't need an on-panel feat to prove that he can accomplish such a thing, you just know through pure simple logic of adding two premises together that you can conclude thusly.

So get your stupid "you're speculating" bs out of here. You are an utter hypocrite and to see you cling to this contradiction of yours so pathetically makes me hurt. At some point during this, I'm going to enjoy watching you squirm and wriggle. Right now, I'm simply disappointed with your antics and pathetic attempts to divert attention away from how utterly wrong you are.

It comes to this, admit your standard is utterly wrong and ridiculous and move on. OR, you can continue to cling to your standard and realize that you are absolutely guilty of violating that standard with your belief that Thanos w/ full IG had complete mastery over the Soul, even though there are no on-panel feats proving such.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
EDIT: Stop misquoting me. It is tantamount to outright lying and I've reported it to the mods. You truly are a sad individual darth.

Technically, since everything you've said is right here in this thread, it's easy to disprove.

I can understand your point, but at the same time it's obvious to anyone that he's having fun with your words and isn't actually trying to mislead others into thinking you said those things.

So I'd ask those mis-quoting you to stop (and please do). But if you continue to get upset, all you're doing is playing into their hands. Just roll with the punches and it won't matter what they say to you or about you.

Bah all this talking. PC Superman is a living Powergem with Insane Speed. His on panel feats trump anything anyone has done with the PG only. Superman wins. nuff said. Unless someone thinks Drax has speed enough to even touch someone who can fly so fast that he can traverse dimensions, universes, and time lines.