"Did Canadians create the whole superhero genre?"
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Study/4273/begin.html
😄 From Mungi's link
Originally posted by The link that Mungi provided Proportionately speaking, we see more American movies than Americans, and (at least at one point) were such huge consumers of American comics, that Marvel Comics created Wolverineas a kind of tip-of-the-hat to the Canadian readership. Saying that Canadians aren't into superheroes is blatantly untrue and, dare I say it? even elitest -- defining a culture, not by the peopple, but by the elite (and the elites' failure to win the favour of the people). Not to mention the fact that Canadians like John Byrne and Todd McFarlane are major players in the modern U.S. comic book industry!Besides, Canadians practically invented superhero comics!!! (Now's the part you were waiting for, eh?)
Firstly, as most people are aware, Superman was co-created in 1938 by Canadian-born Joe Shuster (cousin of Frank -- and if you don't know who that is, ask any Canadian about Wayne & Shuster). In the early days of the Superman comic book, the Canadian connection was even more blatant. Superman's alter ego, Clark Kent, originally worked, not at the Daily Planet, but the Daily Star, which Shuster claimed was an intentional homage to the Toronto Star (for which he used to deliver papers as a kid). As well, apparently the skyline of Metropolis was modeled after the Toronto skyline (and let's not forget the Fortress of Solitude, which was originally in the Canadian arctic). Superman is credited as having practically created the comic book superhero genre. Sure, there were a handful of others before him, but he was the most successful, and was largely the first of the "super"-powered characters that would come to define the genre. Superman, I should also hastily point out, was a joint creation between Shuster and American Jerry Siegel (just to be honest).
But wait, there's more.
Hal Foster has been called the father of the adventure strip. When he introduced the Tarzan newspaper strip in 1929 (premiering simultaneously with Buck Rogers), based on E.R. Burroughs' novel, it was the first time comic strips had been used to tell a dramatic, action-adventure story (the genre which pretty well dominates comic books today). He later went on to create the classic Prince Valiant, and his realist, detailed art is still revered to this day. Need I say that Mr. Foster was a Canadian?
But wait, I've saved the best till last!
Comic book superheroes owe their origins to Pulp magazine characters like Doc Savage, Zorro, and the Shadow. But to what -- and to whom -- do the pulp heroes owe their origins? What originated the idea of the mysterious crime fighter? I'm sure the genesis is varied and complex, but what pundits seem to agree on is that the acknowledged archetype for the costumed crime fighters of the pulps was...The Gray Seal, who prowled the streets of New York, USA starting waaaay back in 1914. The Gray Seal was created by Frank L. Packard...another Canadian!
Originally posted by manorastroman
allow me to be the first to say...so? was john carter canadian? if you don't know who john carter is, wiki him.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_carter
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Carter_%28character%29
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he's generally credited with beginning the "superpowered" movement.
Originally posted by manorastroman
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Carter_%28character%29😐
he's generally credited with beginning the "superpowered" movement.
Are you saying that John Carter holds more responsibility then Superman for the current comics world?
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Well it certainly doesn't have anything to with capabilities of their writers. 😉
And Wolverine stabbign Thanos when he was was powered up with the gems is great stuff right ? Or going toe to toe with Namor when he doesn't use his claws is great.
Marvel is great but there is things they really **** up on. Most of which is Wolverine.
Originally posted by Baldey
And Wolverine stabbign Thanos when he was was powered up with the gems is great stuff right ? Or going toe to toe with Namor when he doesn't use his claws is great.Marvel is great but there is things they really **** up on. Most of which is Wolverine.
And yet all of those pale in comparision to Deathstroke hitting the Flash.
... and Wolverine used his claws the four times he fought Namor 😕
Touche.
But theres a difference. Flash needs to job to face people most of the time. But Wolverine has people he can fight without jobing to.
But with the Namor bit. In their recent fight Wolverine kicked him at one point and bam he fell over. How the hell can that happen ? Tell me how thats logical.
Or this scan:
How is Namor struggling to not get Logan off him ?
Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
So, DC writers creating a character that needs to job in order to be interesting proves that they're better then Marvel, how?
You could say that. Then what about Thor. He jobs to most enemies to be fair. He could destroy most of the heros on earth or villains yet he struggles. That can be jobbing when he shouldn't have to much trouble.
Originally posted by Baldey
Touche.But theres a difference. Flash needs to job to face people most of the time. But Wolverine has people he can fight without jobing to.
But with the Namor bit. In their recent fight Wolverine kicked him at one point and bam he fell over. How the hell can that happen ? Tell me how thats logical.
Or this scan:
How is Namor struggling to not get Logan off him ?
Namor, while having the ability of flight more often the not avoids aerial combat in favor of melee combat. How is it a huge stretch that Wolverine can hold his own against Namor? There isn't a disparity of speed between the two. Namor isn't invulnerable as such he is susceptible to Wolverine's claws. Even if Namor decided to keep use aerial combat tactics he'd still need to come into melee range as he doesn't have a viable range option.
As for Wolverine kicking Namor knocking him over, well Namor's strength has no effect on how much he weighs. How much does Namor weigh, 210lbs? Wolverine has mild superhuman strength, if Namor was off balance he would be able to knock him over... a lot of people could. And considering Wolverine's extensive combat training the guy is going to be hitting like a truck. Think Rocky Marciano if he could bench two tons and skill wise was three levels higher on a logartihmich scale.
