Originally posted by Tangible God
Anakin in ROTS was immensley more powerful in both speed and the Force, likely strength too, in comparison to suit-Vader in ROTS.Give Vader until RODV, then we'll see.
What are you talking about ????
At their PRIME .
"Suit Vader" was not at his prime in ep. 3 (ROTS). He was at his prime in ep. 5 or ep. 6.
Originally posted by The Planet
OT Vader is a slow and unskilled piece of shit, Anakin would merk him in saber combat, but it's been shown that Vader's force mastery is beyond Anakin's, even if his connection has been weakened.
Untrue. You're basing it simply on the fact that the lightsaber battles in Episodes I-III were faster than the ones in Episodes IV-VI. However, if you would research things a little bit before posting you'd know that Vader fought a resurrected Darth Maul whooped him. Darth Maul was trained to beat on Jedi so he was bad ass with a lightsaber. As Anakin Skywalker, servant of the light, he wouldn't have stood a chance.
Originally posted by AntaeusI'll be honest, you confused me quite a bit earlier, I was just winging it.
What are you talking about ????At their [B]PRIME
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"Suit Vader" was not at his prime in ep. 3 (ROTS). He was at his prime in ep. 5 or ep. 6. [/B]
But, no, Vader may not be as fast as Anakin, or not have as much potential, but suit-Vader is still physically more powerful and able in the Force than Anakin.
I wonder why Luke as young as he was...wasn't just as fast as the young ones in Ep 1 though 3....I think because his masters weren't able to show him how to do those fancey flips and such...and doing everyting super fast and all..Luke was just as slow as the rest of the siths and jedis in the OT. O_O
Originally posted by Pepsi_Blue_Fan
I wonder why Luke as young as he was...wasn't just as fast as the young ones in Ep 1 though 3....I think because his masters weren't able to show him how to do those fancey flips and such...and doing everyting super fast and all..Luke was just as slow as the rest of the siths and Jedi's in the OT. O_O
I think that is a "time-thing" Luke probably had the best master of them all - Yoda.
If Lucas was going to make Star Wars ep. 4-6 today, Luke would probably be as fast as the Jedi's or Sith's we saw in ep. 1-3.
Marxman and Tangible God have you voted?
I don't see Vader being much slower than Anakin in lightsaber combat. Mainly because to me it looked like he was cut mid-forearm, leaving the two main joints used in sword fighting (elbow and shoulder) his own.
And even if he did lose his elbow, its now machine, which would make it better. I mean, they have the technology to control light! He no longer has to rely on the limited strength of human muscle. He has the strength of hydraulics (or whatever they use in the SW universe).
Originally posted by AstroFan
Wouldnt it technically be Vader?He was at his prime when he was burned, but he was already Vader. lol
Read and you will know.....
But here it is AGAIN:
Anakin before he was named Darth Vader by Sidious
(he was probably at his prime when he was fighting Dooku in ep. 3)Darth Vader after the fight with Obi Wan in ep. 3 - when he became a machine.
(he was probably at his prime in episode 5 or episode 6 - edit:he was definately not at his prime after he was burned??????)