Thor and Beta Ray Bill versus Eradicator and Cyborg Superman

Started by Avlon7 pages
Originally posted by The Nuul
Hank also took over part of the Source Walls tech and I do believe thats living also.

And beyond what Gods themselves comprehend.

Forcefully bonded with aliens on every planet he's visited.

Forcefully taken over Steels mind controlled armor.

Converted a body + tech into a body for himself on the fly.

There are tons of examples that Henshaw has that are great for battle.

Originally posted by carver9
Lol at anyone thinking that team 2 is even CLOSE to being as versatile as thor and brb.

LOL @ thinking that guys who can't even fly on their own and don't have supersenses, speed, matter manip, energy manip, technopathy, etc are more versatile...

Originally posted by Spire
Well they are not dragged around by a hammer.

It doesnt matter what they're dragged around by, there versatility AND power is much greater then theres. The only thing that is keeping this fight interested is the speed difference (which is the reason cis is on so they wont even use that in battle) and, hell, thats basically it.

Originally posted by carver9
It doesnt matter what they're dragged around by, there versatility AND power is much greater then theres. The only thing that is keeping this fight interested is the speed difference (which is the reason cis is on so they wont even use that in battle) and, hell, thats basically it.

Not in the flight category.

Originally posted by Avlon
And beyond what Gods themselves comprehend.

Forcefully bonded with aliens on every planet he's visited.

Forcefully taken over Steels mind controlled armor.

Converted a body + tech into a body for himself on the fly.

There are tons of examples that Henshaw has that are great for battle.

LOL @ thinking that guys who can't even fly on their own and don't have supersenses, speed, matter manip, energy manip, technopathy, etc are more versatile...

So with your last quote I guess you're saying that theyre also more versatile then surfer. They can energy mani and matter mani, what are you talking about.

Thor and brb are on a different level then both on the dc side and anyone who think otherwise knows nothing of both characters.

Power wise, this is a mis match fight. Speed and henshaw is the only thing that is making this interesting. I agree with henshaw taking over brb's body, it would be as easy as magneto manipulating his body.

Originally posted by Avlon

Forcefully taken over Steels mind controlled armor.

Oh whats this? Hank cant take over Cyborgs because they are not robots....... 😆

Originally posted by carver9
So with your last quote I guess you're saying that theyre also more versatile then surfer. They can energy mani and matter mani, what are you talking about.

Erads has always been more versatile than Surfer. He has all of Surfers powers and more. Henshaw is close but with rings...he surpasses both.

Originally posted by carver9
Thor and brb are on a different level then both on the dc side and anyone who think otherwise knows nothing of both characters.

You're right. Thor and BRB are on a different level. A lower one physically and versatility wise.

Originally posted by carver9
Power wise, this is a mis match fight. Speed and henshaw is the only thing that is making this interesting. I agree with henshaw taking over brb's body, it would be as easy as magneto manipulating his body.

This isn't even a battle. It's a stomp in Team 2's favor.

Lol at Erad being Surfer+.

Cyborg and Erads are both based off the physiology of a Superman from 16 years prior.

Even if they weren't, they'd aren't physically dominant in their approach, so the point is mute regardless.

Team two wins because half of team 1 is robotic, but aside from that, they'd lose.

Erad is a loser. Whether Kem-El or Davie show up.

Originally posted by UniOmni
Lol at Erad being Surfer+.

Power/versatility wise, he is. As a second stringer in DC, you won't see it often though.

Originally posted by UniOmni
Cyborg and Erads are both based off the physiology of a Superman from 16 years prior.

Strange since Erads is the one who powered up the modern Superman and has stalemated him in physical battle. Something Thor wasn't able to accomplish even with his hammer.

Henshaw heals on demand and has high durability and low durability showings. His high (black holes, omega beams, atomizing blasts, bloodlusted guardian, Superman sucker punches) are good and his bad one (Arisia) is bad..but then again.... Thor was in danger from falling off a building and has been ko'd by a shotgun bullet in the past.

Guess we should throw out all of Thor's feats and go by his low ones too.

Originally posted by UniOmni
Even if they weren't, they'd aren't physically dominant in their approach, so the point is mute regardless.

Pretty much, since current Thor needed Odinpower just to survive a basic blast and was being rocked by punches that even Titania can dish out. Nevermind a kryptonian...

Terrax/Surfer/Supes should be able to one or two shot current Thor now since you know...Bor at best was shown to be planet busting entity. Hell, those 3 must be skyfathers now!

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Originally posted by UniOmni
eam two wins because half of team 1 is robotic, but aside from that, they'd lose.

Yea, team 2 wins despite the LOL of thinking team 1 wins otherwise.

Originally posted by UniOmni
Erad is a loser. Whether Kem-El or Davie show up.

Yea, he's been jobbed since his early days. Doesn't make him less powerful in forum match up's though. He's still got good showings and an excellent power set.

what has erad ever done besides getting t-bagged by borg and superman?

In Apokolis? Are you kidding? 😐

Current Thor is good, but Apokolips, geez...

Originally posted by Starscream M
what has erad ever done besides getting t-bagged by borg and superman?

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f95/t409264.html

Yea, Erads is always teabagged by Supes... 🙄

When he isn't jobbing (David) Erads is a force to be reckoned with.

In all honesty, barring soul sucking, which is something Thor never does and its not sure to work, team 1 has no chance in beating Apokolips.

I know that Trickster and Avlon are adamant in their positions at times and it seems extreme. This time it isn't. Apokolips tech would mess Thor. Bad.

Originally posted by Bentley
In all honesty, barring soul sucking, which is something Thor never does and its not sure to work, team 1 has no chance in beating Apokolips.

I know that Trickster and Avlon are adamant in their positions at times and it seems extreme. This time it isn't. Apokolips tech would mess Thor. Bad.

No different than anyone else who debates on here. There are plenty here who lowball based on what company they like.

I just choose not to underrate either side. 🙂

Originally posted by Bentley
In all honesty, barring soul sucking, which is something Thor never does and its not sure to work, team 1 has no chance in beating Apokolips.

I know that Trickster and Avlon are adamant in their positions at times and it seems extreme. This time it isn't. Apokolips tech would mess Thor. Bad.

Thor's done it.....

It's not a particularly far fetched application of Mjolnir either, Thor just has to be pissed.

Originally posted by Avlon
No different than anyone else who debates on here. There are plenty here who lowball based on what company they like.

I just choose not to underrate either side. 🙂

That's a lie.

Not long ago you tried to use Rulk as a low feat for Thor. How is using a bullshit comic by Loeb not lowballing?

I didn't use Rulk. 😮 The key problem with soul suck, is that it's iffy that it would work on these 2. Henshaw having a soul is dubious. And Eradicator may not have one either.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Not long ago you tried to use Rulk as a low feat for Thor. How is using a bullshit comic by Loeb not lowballing?

So Rulk DIDN'T physically rock Thor?

Who cares of Loeb, Bendis, or John's wrote the comic? Did Marvel/DC suddenly give you authority opinion over the writers?

I've given credit on both ends of that Rulk/Thor fight. If you're going to make a claim, I suggest you get the full story first. Especially since I'm no fan of the Hulk.

Originally posted by Avlon
So Rulk DIDN'T physically rock Thor?

Who cares of Loeb, Bendis, or John's wrote the comic? Did Marvel/DC suddenly give you authority opinion over the writers?

I've given credit on both ends of that fight. If you're going to make a claim, I suggest you get the full story first.

Like I said, lowballing. If you're going to claim that something isn't PIS, I suggest you read more about a certain character.

Like how a green lantern can cut through Henshaw like he's butter.

At least Rulk's knocked out a Watcher and whatnot, Henshaw was cut in two.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Like I said, lowballing. If you're going to claim that something isn't PIS, I suggest you read more about a certain character.

Like how a green lantern can cut through Henshaw like he's butter.

At least Rulk's knocked out a Watcher and whatnot, Henshaw was cut in two.

how was Rulk beating thor PIS?

Rulk was a completely new character at the time with no power guidelines...

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Henshaw having a soul is dubious.
henshaw having a soul is dubious??? do you even have any knowledge of henshaw at all???

Originally posted by Starscream M
how was Rulk beating thor PIS?

Rulk was a completely new character at the time with no power guidelines...

Because Rulk has more feats now to compare?