Thor and Beta Ray Bill versus Eradicator and Cyborg Superman

Started by Mindset7 pages

Originally posted by Starscream M
ok, this is my reasoning

Rulk makes his entrance into comicdom...we don't know who he is or how powerful he is

he kills abom, one shots watcher, beats she-hulk and im like toys, and then beats Thor

so now we get a sense of how powerful he is...high-herald in power (not versatility)

that is his power baseline

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later he gets beat by chick squad...which completely contradicts all of his earlier showings....hence it is PIS

He shoots Abom with a gun, he knocked the Watcher off his feet, that's about it. When he beat She Hulk and IM he caught them both off guard.

The only real feat that your using to base his power on is the one with Thor.

Originally posted by Mindset
He shoots Abom with a gun, he knocked the Watcher off his feet, that's about it. When he beat She Hulk and IM he caught them both off guard.

The only real feat that your using to base his power on is the one with Thor.

so we can do this for any character

just pick a low feat, and then disqualify any high feats as PIS.

its pointless

Originally posted by Starscream M
so we can do this for any character

just pick a low feat, and then disqualify any high feats as PIS.

its pointless

His only high feat would be his fight with Thor.

Other characters don't have only one high end feat that we use to base their powers on, not when they have other feats that can be used to make an avg.

Originally posted by Mindset
His only high feat would be his fight with Thor.

Other characters don't have only one high end feat that we use to base their powers on, not when they have other feats that can be used to make an avg.

I consider his other feats to be pretty impressive, but you discounted them, so whatever. The fact is he beat thor by overpowering him but he didn't lose to the chicks by being overpowered...so I don't see a big disconnect. But whatever, I seriously don't care to defend rulk that much.

Originally posted by Starscream M
I consider his other feats to be pretty impressive, but you discounted them, so whatever. The fact is he beat thor by overpowering him but he didn't lose to the chicks by being overpowered...so I don't see a big disconnect. But whatever, I seriously don't care to defend rulk that much.
I gave the feats context.

Originally posted by Mindset
I gave the feats context.
but you realize that alot of people were calling Rulk beating Thor PIS before Rulk even had any low-showings, right?

Please get back to the topic and stop antagonizing each other.

Originally posted by Avlon
Sure does, but the bullet that ko'd Thor doesn't. Guess that building he was afraid of falling from must be herald level too.
Classic Thor has more feats of taking bullets with no problem than he does getting hurt by bullets. And that particular instance was recanted in a subsequent interview as a miscommunication between writer and artist. It was supposed to be a Kirby-esq gun, not a normal sniper rifle. Not only that, current Thor has no problem taking machine gun fire.

Also, classic Thor has many feats where he falls from great heights without any problems. Not only that, we've seen current Thor fall from great heights without dying.

So what exactly are the points you're making here, other than being off-topic since this is current Thor, and trying to take isolated instances of low-feats in contravention of their average/usual feats even if the conversation was about classic Thor?

Oh... and concerning how we should quantify how hard current Thor hits based on his Rulk fight... people do understand that Rulk was playing possum when he fought the Lady Liberators, right?

Originally posted by Avlon
Well, clearly that example showed that:

She Hulks punches are > Current Thor
Storms lightning is > Current Thor,

Sue, Storm, and She Hulk are above Thor and a Watcher.

Seriously though, the girls fought intelligently and used weakness exploitation to get the win.

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OMg you guys are getting out of hand with this one.

ANything Rulk is not a good to to use period end of story.

HIs up's and downs contradict each other.

HE beats Hulk loses to Hulk

HE smacks down a watcher then pimp slaps Thor.

THen THor beats him to a inch of his life.

Hulk then beats him b/c now he overheats.

THe girls beat on him which he was just playing dead like mention but then again he should of not needed to do that anyways.

SO throw Rulk out the window until a good writer come along.

THen someone say thor needed the odinforce to survive a blast not true learn to read.

Current Thor had to stop stormbreaker from crashing into a city and only said Odin give me the strength. Nothing mention of the odinpower to keep him alive.

THe only time him mention needing the odinforce to live was agaist Bor attack one attack Thor' been hit by big G thanos and a whole lot of tohers and was able to live. So that puts BOr on a high level hmm what do we call the leader of a group of gods whats that term skyfather.

Thor was consider high herald level before the Odinforce and every comic show how much strounger he is. THis match up all depends on how each other teams plays there cards. MAn you guys get out of hand sometimes.

No, this particular match is decidedly against Thor.

Skyfather or not, he has no chance against not only Bill, Eradicator, and Henshaw, but the entire planet of Apokolips and it's technology. ❌

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
No, this particular match is decidedly against Thor.

Skyfather or not, he has no chance against not only Bill, Eradicator, and Henshaw, but the entire planet of Apokolips and it's technology. ❌

When has Henshaw ever taken over someone like BrB?

facepalm You're asking me for an example of something, that's basically Henshaw's main power. Go to hell, Quan.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
No, this particular match is decidedly against Thor.

Skyfather or not, he has no chance against not only Bill, Eradicator, and Henshaw, but the entire planet of Apokolips and it's technology. ❌

Would Henshaw be able to overcome Apokolips technology's defenses in time for it to make a contribution in this battle? Also... wouldn't Apokolips' denizens and particularly Darkseid have something to say about Henshaw trying such a stunt?

OP: are the usual folks on Apokolips, or is it deserted?

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
OP: are the usual folks on Apokolips, or is it deserted?
no occupants...but all tech and structures and resources are on Apokolips

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
facepalm You're asking me for an example of something, that's basically Henshaw's main power. Go to hell, Quan.
So you cannot provide one.

So anybody want to postulate how quickly Henshaw takes over Apokolips tech while fighting foes like current Thor and Beta Ray Bill and Eradicator running interference?

Less than a minute. Maybe 2. Hell, it could be in less than 30 seconds.

Originally posted by The Nuul
How about BRB supporters show proof that he can resist a Technopath on Hanks level.

There are a ton of proof what Hank can do with his stuff that was already posted.