Shatterstar vs Gambit

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StyleTime Senior Member

Originally posted by Starhawk
It's not what I would have you believe it's what his powers and abilities are and you were the one only a post ago asking us to 'assume' things.

It's not unreasonable to assume he's not a top tier martial artist when he has NEVER once shown that he is. It IS unreasonable to assume that he is that skilled just because wikipedia says he has good fighting abilities.
Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
is close in fighting skill.

Actually, Gambit would be better. He stalemated Daredevil in pure melee combat. Shatterstar's record consists of getting his ass kicked by Wolverine.
Originally posted by Starhawk
Based on his powers and abilities Shatterstar would wreck him and I will get scans.

Once again, we go by what a character has actually accomplished in the past instead of wikipedia biographies. Do you realize how many characters are described as "enhanced" physically?
Originally posted by Starhawk
His cards don't do anywhere near enough damage to take out Shatterstar.

Based on what? Please tell me how Gambit's cards won't take him out, so I can show you how they will.

Since you want to make Shatterstar something he's not, I could easily use some retarded high end feats for Gambit that would make you wonder why this thread was ever made.

manorastroman Senior Member
Originally posted by StyleTime

Actually, Gambit would be better. He stalemated Daredevil in pure melee combat.

REALLY?!?!?!?! not doubting, but...damn.

Starhawk Restricted

As I said I will get scans to prove his fighting prowess, I don't have a scanner handy but I will by thursday night.

nvrbeenwthagirl Restricted

You guys are totally dismissing Character history. The beyonder came and was given a history when he came. A descriptive narrative that gave him his back ground and what we base his power off of. With that being said, Shatter star's history is that of an ultimate fighter. And I have many xforce books. Shatter star is very impressive. He is a better fighter than Gambit any day of the week. it's no way to even get around that. Gambit is a master thief. It's like comparing Catwoman to Elektra. Sure Catwoman can scrap a little, but she isn't trained like Elektra is. Same thing with Gambit, he can scrap, but in the end, he's a thief while Shatter Star is a highly trained fighter. Even if Shatter Star has lost to Wolverine, that doesn't matter. Who hasn't lost to wolverine.

Brian Oswald Senior Member

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
You guys are totally dismissing Character history. The beyonder came and was given a history when he came. A descriptive narrative that gave him his back ground and what we base his power off of. With that being said, Shatter star's history is that of an ultimate fighter. And I have many xforce books. Shatter star is very impressive. He is a better fighter than Gambit any day of the week. it's no way to even get around that. Gambit is a master thief. It's like comparing Catwoman to Elektra. Sure Catwoman can scrap a little, but she isn't trained like Elektra is. Same thing with Gambit, he can scrap, but in the end, he's a thief while Shatter Star is a highly trained fighter. Even if Shatter Star has lost to Wolverine, that doesn't matter. Who hasn't lost to wolverine.
He can be a better fighter, that is not going to save him from getting blown up

StyleTime Senior Member

Originally posted by manorastroman
REALLY?!?!?!?! not doubting, but...damn.

Yep.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
You guys are totally dismissing Character history. The beyonder came and was given a history when he came. A descriptive narrative that gave him his back ground and what we base his power off of. With that being said, Shatter star's history is that of an ultimate fighter. And I have many xforce books. Shatter star is very impressive. He is a better fighter than Gambit any day of the week. it's no way to even get around that. Gambit is a master thief. It's like comparing Catwoman to Elektra. Sure Catwoman can scrap a little, but she isn't trained like Elektra is. Same thing with Gambit, he can scrap, but in the end, he's a thief while Shatter Star is a highly trained fighter. Even if Shatter Star has lost to Wolverine, that doesn't matter. Who hasn't lost to wolverine.

I gave Shatterstar his credit. He does have skills and I have seen them. However, to say he is one of the top martial artists in Marvel is nothing short of asinine.

You, however, are totally dismissing actual fights. Shatterstar hasn't beat many people of note. It's not fair to just assume he is so amazing when hasn't beaten anyone to show that.

Starhawk Restricted

Guys, one question , what do you call a character whos more powerful then herald level, but not as powerful as a Skyfather?

manorastroman Senior Member

thanos

Starhawk Restricted

But is there a spacific term on the forums for someone like that?

SpunkySmurph tu quoqumber

Thanos-level 🙂

Starhawk Restricted

Oh okay thanks. Would you consider someone Thanos level if they can defeat Silver Surfer /w Nega Bands?

SpunkySmurph tu quoqumber
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
You guys are totally dismissing Character history. The beyonder came and was given a history when he came. A descriptive narrative that gave him his back ground and what we base his power off of. With that being said, Shatter star's history is that of an ultimate fighter. And I have many xforce books. Shatter star is very impressive. He is a better fighter than Gambit any day of the week. it's no way to even get around that. Gambit is a master thief. It's like comparing Catwoman to Elektra. Sure Catwoman can scrap a little, but she isn't trained like Elektra is. Same thing with Gambit, he can scrap, but in the end, he's a thief while Shatter Star is a highly trained fighter. Even if Shatter Star has lost to Wolverine, that doesn't matter. Who hasn't lost to wolverine.

1. You assume Gambit can't fight well enough because he was a thief... 🤨

2.
😗

manorastroman Senior Member

ultimate...and that doesn't really show fighting skills so much as balls.

StyleTime Senior Member

Originally posted by Starhawk
Oh okay thanks. Would you consider someone Thanos level if they can defeat Silver Surfer /w Nega Bands?

It depends on how he or she did it.

This is getting exciting. Are you saying Shatterstar beat Surfer?

Starhawk Restricted

No Starhawk in Guardians 58-59, he almost killed Surfer and then had to heal him to prevent him from dying.

I was just wondering where on the cosmic scale he landed.

ExtraMision5555 SKELLETIL RESARCH

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
1. You assume Gambit can't fight well enough because he was a thief... 🤨

2.
😗

what comic is this from?

Starhawk Restricted

Ultimate X-men issue 47-8 I beleive

ExtraMision5555 SKELLETIL RESARCH
Originally posted by Starhawk
Ultimate X-men issue 47-8 I beleive

is ultiamte x-men good reading?

doesnt wolverine have like a fake arm in that series or something?

outavodka Il Cut You B!tch!!!!

i think your thinking of manga wolverine

Starhawk Restricted

Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
is ultiamte x-men good reading?

doesnt wolverine have like a fake arm in that series or something?

Its pretty good, you should check it out.