Ragman is a sweet character, but he's horrible outclassed here. Aside from his soul-absorption abilities, his magic is hardly amazing. Doctor Strange has gone head to head with the Soul Gem itself, in the hands of its most powerful user- so that's a non-issue here.
What's to stop Doctor Strange from summoning a force of demons, as well? He's done it before.
Originally posted by Galan007
With no prep, I wonder how they could get by Jakeem, Black Alice, or Dr. Fate...btw, Ion is currently on earth as well 😏
Originally posted by masterbruce
they get 1 day prep and it's a surprise attack
Originally posted by Galan007
One day to beat Ion, a 5D Imp, and a sorceror who is near the same level as Strange himself, among so many others?Sorry, Strange and Surfer aren't THAT badass.
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Ion, Black Alice, and Captain Marvel handle those 3 with ease.Hell, Batman uses Lex's infinitely programmable, infinitely configurable Kryptonian battleship and takes them out on his own.
Ah...the power of the Batman with the ultimate PIS weapon.
Your counting Ion on earth? I thought the point of "DC earth" was no sky fathers or crazy characters like that. I don't think DC earth should have Ion or Captain Marvel.
With just DC earth, and prep, the Marvel team should be able to pull it off.
Originally posted by doctorstrongbad
Your counting Ion on earth? I thought the point of "DC earth" was no sky fathers or crazy characters like that. I don't think DC earth should have Ion or Captain Marvel.With just DC earth, and prep, the Marvel team should be able to pull it off.
They live on Earth...and those are just 3 characters.
They can all be phantom zoned and powerless with ease.
About the thread being amusing? Or about why DC Earth wins?
If the former, retarded insult throwing. Was chuckle-worthy.
If the latter, Black Alice, Dr Fate, Jakeem Thunder. Oh and the GLs and the rest of the the JLA. And the Spectre.
I suppose one could also throw in the various Pantheons of DC Earth too.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
About the thread being amusing? Or about why DC Earth wins?If the former, retarded insult throwing. Was chuckle-worthy.
If the latter, Black Alice, Dr Fate, Jakeem Thunder. Oh and the GLs and the rest of the the JLA. And the Spectre.
I suppose one could also throw in the various Pantheons of DC Earth too.
Okay "DC Earth" so no.... GL's and no Pantheons.
JLA would be allowed.
Don't forget about Marvel prep, they have fought JLA before.
Originally posted by doctorstrongbadStrange, Thor, and Surfer have 1 day of prep, that's it.
Okay "DC Earth" so no.... GL's and no Pantheons.JLA would be allowed.
Don't forget about Marvel prep, they have fought JLA before.
How is that going to enable them to beat Dr. Fate, Cap. Marvel, a 5-D Imp, and Black Alice (Just to name a few)?
And since Ion's home is Earth (and thats where he currently is) I don't see why he can't be used as well.
Strange/Thor/Surfer have NO chance here
Originally posted by long pig
Sigh, no....he isn't on par with most cosmics; including low level heralds.Look at it this way, what powers does Superman have that AREN'T purely physical? He can punch, fly, blast, freeze and take hits. That's all. A Herald is all that and beyond. A herald is all of that PLUS mental, time control, illusion control, outward molecular control, reality warping, energy manipulation, life giving, healing others and things that boarder on mystical.
Superman has beaten beings with those powers (Eradicator, Darksied), Supes has been up against plenty. And like I said, Supes is far more powerful than you. He has strength destroy planets and mess up time, his Heat Vision is hotter than the sun, Cold breath can easily freeze cosmic level beings, he has highten senses, is immune to any type of disese, he's immune to transmutation, high resistance to mind attacks, and he has reality warpping abilities thanks to T-vo. Not all the heralds have the same abilities, and Hearld have been beaten by people who were less versatile than them like Thor, Thanos, and Black Bolt. So even Supes doesn't need all those fancy powers.
[QUOTE]Superman just ISN'T on par.
Supes is on par, with any Herald.
He's a flying, blasting, strong-armed brick.
I starting to think you havn't read a Superman book. Look at his respect thread.
He looks all powerful because he's on Earth and he hangs with street level types.
Supes fights cosmic level beings like every other issue.
He seems all powerful because writers use PIS to make him out to be so gary sue it's sick.
In that case, this goes for every single comic character then. I guess writers use PIS whenever Thor, Thanos, Surfer, X-men, and Hulk is around to right?
Your boy just ain't that special.
It's too bad that you're wrong, and know nothing of the character.