Colossus and beast vs Immortal hercules

Originally posted by jrodslam
I didnt get a chance to look at the respect thread, but ill take a peep at it. He may have well been stronger than current/later versions of himself. I wouldnt doubt that considering feats in the 80's are highly impressive with certain characters. You have to understand my take on this because a while ago, many were saying that Beast is in some high class in strength yet doesnt have much to show for it.

Either way, i still think Colossus can use a much better teammate. Immortal Hercules? Beast just doesnt have what it takes to be enough of a distraction imo. Herc should be able to one-shot him then quickly finish off Colossus soon after.

I understand completly where your coming from, Beast is no where near as strong now as he was back then.

I cna see his speed being a factor in him surviving for a while though, however I would agree that Colossus would do better with a better partner, he and Classic Rogue for instance or him and say Warpath would make this a much, much closer fight and give them a decent chance of pulling off a majority.

I just thought of something, not sure if it was answered already.

What's Herc's durability like? I mean, his skin is still skin-like, right? Not impenetrable? Muscles, nerves, tendons? I'm sure he's got superhuman durability to blunt-force trauma, but can he be cut/stab/pierced/slashed?

hercules durability is very high it is on par with thor as in korvac saga of avengers series it took two point blank attack to bring him down. bullets and other projectiles are not going to work on him. he once stop a speeding car by just standing in front of it and the car was destory. when he defeated the possessor and elder of the universe he took a lot of powerful energy attacks by just walking through them as if it was nothing. the are others but i think you get an idea of how durable he is

Originally posted by Metalmanx
I just thought of something, not sure if it was answered already.

What's Herc's durability like? I mean, his skin is still skin-like, right? Not impenetrable? Muscles, nerves, tendons? I'm sure he's got superhuman durability to blunt-force trauma, but can he be cut/stab/pierced/slashed?

I agree that his Durabilty is around Thor level, blunt force trauma definelty, small arms fire isn't hurting him either.

When he got put into a coma by the masters of evil, the doctors couldn't pierce his skin with a surgical needle, they kept bending.

Your Wolverine and Sabretooth type guys should be able to cut him, I would say that a knife or a sword weilded by someone of sufficent strength would cut him to.

Hes no Ben Grimm or Colossus when it comes to durabilty, I believe he is listed as Metahuman durabilty but God only knows how that transfers over to Marvels level system.

He also has a healing factor, although not anything like Wolverine, Sabretooth, DP etc etc.

When he cut his hand to ribbons by using his arm to grab onto building and dragging it through cocrete at high speed to slow down and stop I think it was the fantasticar from crashing, he said that it would be all healed by the morning.

Hes not insanely durable but hes not bad.

You'd need the mythical Class 100 Colossus to win here.

But I suppose Thing could do it with his eyes closed, eh? 🙄

Maybe. 🙂

But this be more fair if it was like...Thing and Colossus vs. Immortal Herc. Why the heck is Beast in this league at all?

Sure. 🙄

I think it's pretty clear that Beast was not put in here for his strength. His elusiveness, quick thinking, FAR SUPERIOR intelligence, agility, speed, fighting skills, reflexes, etc. are what make him able to last in this fight. Will he actually be able to damage Hercules? No. Will he be able to survive the fight? Yes.