For everyone who calls themself a Christian...

Oh please. You have a dillusion. I'm not going to say there isn't a god, but you don't have a "personal relationship" with him. The fact that you call it a Him is proof of that.

Can you explain this personal relationship? Give us some specifics, maybe? What colour are his eyes? Does he prefer Coke or Pepsi? What's his favorite movie? What kinds of things does he tell you to do? What's his voice sound like? Who's going to win teh super bowl? Has he explained why he doesn't talk to everyone else the way he talks to you? Is there a reason why he talks to you, but refuses to provide the rest of the world with the coutresy of the occasional whisper?

Originally posted by sithsaber408

I have a relationship with my God.

Do the italics imply an Urizen kind of relationship?

Likes Coke, has blue eyes, hes blonde... and is always watching porn ✅ .... hes shy thats why he doesn´t talk to everyone else.

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
Oh please. You have a dillusion. I'm not going to say there isn't a god, but you don't have a "personal relationship" with him. The fact that you call it a Him is proof of that.

Can you explain this personal relationship? Give us some specifics, maybe? What colour are his eyes? Does he prefer Coke or Pepsi? What's his favorite movie? What kinds of things does he tell you to do? What's his voice sound like? Who's going to win teh super bowl? Has he explained why he doesn't talk to everyone else the way he talks to you? Is there a reason why he talks to you, but refuses to provide the rest of the world with the coutresy of the occasional whisper?

I can't wait for an answer to this post. 😆

Originally posted by Naz
One can't have total belief in God, it's pretty much impossible. There is always that fragment of doubt no matter how devout you are. It's like one bible thing about having as much faith as a mustard seed, you'd be able to command a tree to cast itself into the sea.
It is not prideful to say that you believe in God and Jesus, etc. etc.
But I think it is prideful to say that you are so holy that you are certain you'll be going to Heaven.

One can have a total belief in God. It's not impossible. All of his creations are inherently instilled with the knowledge of his existence. Some just choose to have more faith in this knowledge than others.
(Particularly all of the demons(or the fallen angels). They are completely aware of his existence, but being as prideful and as jealous of mankind as they are - they choose to willfully manipulate man, in an attempt to deny him of a true loving relationship with his creator).

Personally - I have little problems doubting God's existence myself. As it is very difficult to deceive me in this area - since God has been present in so much of my everyday life. But the most difficult part for me - is having faith in his *love*.

On another note - you are correct about people who insinuate that their works can get them into heaven, but it is okay for individuals to say - they have faith that Christ's love, will get them into heaven. In fact - Christ wants all of his servants(and or bretheren or friends) - to express his loving nature to the masses, so they can all share eternal friendship with him, and be heirs within his kingdom.

Originally posted by usagi_yojimbo
One can have a total belief in God. It's not impossible. All of his creations are inherently instilled with the knowledge of his existence. Some just choose to have more faith in this knowledge than others.
(Particularly all of the demons(or the fallen angels). They are completely aware of his existence, but being as prideful and as jealous of mankind as they are - they choose to willfully manipulate man, in an attempt to deny him of a true loving relationship with his creator).

Personally - I have little problems doubting God's existence myself. As it is very difficult to deceive me in this area - since God has been present in so much of my everyday life. But the most difficult part for me - is having faith in his *love*.

On another note - you are correct about people who insinuate that their works can get them into heaven, but it is okay for individuals to say - they have faith that Christ's love, will get them into heaven. In fact - Christ wants all of his servants(and or bretheren or friends) - to express his loving nature to the masses, so they can all share eternal friendship with him, and be heirs within his kingdom.

There is no such thing as a demon or angel. Now your way of thinking falls apart.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
There is no such thing as a demon or angel. Now your way of thinking falls apart.

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
Oh please. You have a dillusion. I'm not going to say there isn't a god, but you don't have a "personal relationship" with him. The fact that you call it a Him is proof of that.

Can you explain this personal relationship? Give us some specifics, maybe? What colour are his eyes? Does he prefer Coke or Pepsi? What's his favorite movie? What kinds of things does he tell you to do? What's his voice sound like? Who's going to win teh super bowl? Has he explained why he doesn't talk to everyone else the way he talks to you? Is there a reason why he talks to you, but refuses to provide the rest of the world with the coutresy of the occasional whisper?

(Methinks this ascertains what Paul said on that issue.)

Originally posted by Naz
One can't have total belief in God, it's pretty much impossible.

Nah, it's possible, you just have to be dumb.

Originally posted by FeceMan
There is such a thing as a demon and an angel. Now your way of thinking falls apart...

Can you show me one please? Do you believe in fire breathing dragons and Santa Clause, also?

Originally posted by usagi_yojimbo
Umm..

Spoiler:
Urizen

- at least if you're going to create multiple socks to profess this non - religious agenda, stick to one for a little..and pick a better name next time too..He..He..

Give me a ffkn break Usagi....what a desparate attack, how pathetic.

If that we truly me, I'd be more upfront. I wouldn't be so nice and pu$$y foot about makign a point like that.

Originally posted by FeceMan
There is such a thing as a demon and an angel. Now your way of thinking falls apart.

Capt, are you really that spiritually blind, or are you just trying to provoke sithsaber?

(Methinks this ascertains what Paul said on that issue.)

Yup and yup.

Thanks Fece, that was good.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Can you show me one please?(demon) Do you believe in fire breathing dragons and Santa Clause, also?

No but I've seen people possesed by them before. Just as you can't see the wind but can see it's effects.

I've seen people who are strong in faith and filled with the Holy Spirit use it's supernatural power to cast those demons out in the name of Jesus, and the person who couldn't be sedated or drugged stops and is peaceful.

A seperate but comparitve question shaky, do you believe only in this natural world, or that there are supernatural things outside ourselves?

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
Oh please. You have a dillusion. I'm not going to say there isn't a god, but you don't have a "personal relationship" with him. The fact that you call it a Him is proof of that.

Can you explain this personal relationship? Give us some specifics, maybe? What colour are his eyes? Does he prefer Coke or Pepsi? What's his favorite movie? What kinds of things does he tell you to do? What's his voice sound like? Who's going to win teh super bowl? Has he explained why he doesn't talk to everyone else the way he talks to you? Is there a reason why he talks to you, but refuses to provide the rest of the world with the coutresy of the occasional whisper?

Cap, he tells me that he loves me. He says yes or no to me when I ask for things, and usually I see why later on.

It's not an audible voice from a speaker or even a voice in my head, but a feeling. A feeling with thoughts and ideas behind it, like the feeling you get after helping a person out.

The feeling is good, but you know in your mind that what you did was the right thing, and that you should be proud.

You don't hear a voice inside yourself say "that was a good thing you did Bryan (using my name here), you should be proud of yourself" but you have a feeling that confirms those thoughts.

I can't think of any better way to explain it to you, and I'm sure that doesn't work for you.

Suffice to say that I was at one point in my life very liberal, and definitely a skeptic of anything until I've had it proved in my face.

(that much I'm sure you can gather from my time here at KMC) 😛

I'm reasonably intelligent, definately not insane, and I promise you:

I have a relationship with GOD.

I won't answer your jerk questions about his favorite movie or soda because it doesn't work like that, but I'll answer that last one:

The people of the world would hear from him if they asked him touch their lives.

(in a real and honest way, seeking to know him, rather than a "prove yourself, you old f*cker" type of way.)

Originally posted by JaehSkywalker
that one's a sock? oh well...

answer: I know i'm going to heaven. I believe in Christ, accepted Him as my Lord and Saviour, and have a personal relationship with him. Its by faith, not religion. its a relationship with the Lord, not a religion. big difference.

Sure, I'm a sinner. I know that. but i repent my sins to God, and He forgives them. *ends answer*

that good enough?

All you are of is that your Faith qualifies you to this mythological idea of Heaven. Good 👆

However, you do not know for certain of Heaven's actual existance. Nobody does.

Originally posted by sithsaber408
Cap, he tells me that he loves me. He says yes or no to me when I ask for things, and usually I see why later on.

It's not an audible voice from a speaker or even a voice in my head, but a feeling. A feeling with thoughts and ideas behind it, like the feeling you get after helping a person out.

The feeling is good, but you know in your mind that what you did was the right thing, and that you should be proud.

So what ?

I have feelings about OTHER things that cannot be proven. How are your feelings any more valid than my own ? How do you know your feelings are senses of truth, and not just pyschosomatic ?

Originally posted by Bardock42
Nah, it's possible, you just have to be dumb.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Can you show me one please? Do you believe in fire breathing dragons and Santa Clause, also?

Originally posted by sithsaber408
...No but I've seen people possesed by them before. Just as you can't see the wind but can see it's effects.

I've seen people who are strong in faith and filled with the Holy Spirit use it's supernatural power to cast those demons out in the name of Jesus, and the person who couldn't be sedated or drugged stops and is peaceful.

A separate but comparitve question shaky, do you believe only in this natural world, or that there are supernatural things outside ourselves?

You are seeing hysteria or mental illness not demon possession.

I do not believe in supernatural, for God is not separate from nature or us.

Originally posted by FeceMan
...Spiritual beings are the hardest to see. Not that it matters, as arguing this point is as ridiculous as arguing the existence of love.

See above...

Originally posted by Bardock42
Do the italics imply an Urizen kind of relationship?

No...only a droolio smilie can imply the kind of relationships I embark.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
You are seeing hysteria or mental illness not demon possession.

I do not believe in supernatural, for God is not separate from nature or us.

See above...

all the time? every time? forever?

Throughout history as people have been possesed by demons, and set free by people of strong faith with the Holy Spirit's power working through them, you really believe that every single case can be attributed to mental illness or hysteria?

Not likely.

Also, if that were true, then how is it that the person who commands the demon away in the name of Christ somehow, at that very moment just HAPPENS to speak it as the hysteria or mental illness (two psycholigical conditions that their fairy tale god should have no effect on) just HAPPENS to leave the person?

Your argument grows thin.

A personal example:

My mother-in-law is a strong woman of faith, and one of 16 brothers and sisters. Some are saved, others aren't.

By and large, the ones who aren't are drug users or alcoholics, cheat on spouses or are abused by them, and live very unhappy lives.

This last winter, Lori, my mother-in-law, had the sisters (9 in all) and their kids all over to her daughter Mellissa's house. (my sister in-law)

The first night was spent visiting, and talking, and with my in-laws giving testimony to the power of the Lord changing things in your life that you aren't happy with, but that you find hard to break and have a hold on you.

Many of the ladies were touched by the honest and real lives that these women of God were living, happy lives with families that gave them joy, and several who had brought drugs with them threw them out, and planned for the next day to have the explanation of this "Jesus life" and how to live it.

That night, as they slept, one of the aunts who wasn't a drug user but just a skeptic, one who had been on the fence and was starting to melt, was possesed by a demon.

She woke up screaming, feeling a dark heavy prescence upon her body, like blanket of lead and she couldn't move.

She tried to cry out the name of Jesus, and she said that she literally felt a hand reach to her throat and choke her, and her vocal cords didn't work.

Her scream had woken the others, who rushed down stairs, praying in tounges (in the spirit) and they gathered together using the power of the Holy Spirit. They commanded the demon to leave in the name of Jesus Christ, and it did.

Needless to say that aunt wasn't "on the fence" anymore! 😱

Now this isn't some Steven King novel, this really happened.

I wasn't there no, but the people who told it to me are many, too many to be a lie, and they are college-educated professional women (some) and truth-ful wise people (my in-laws)

The family has no history of mental illness, and there was no "hysteria" i.e. flapping around and screaming, but rather a woman who was turning her heart towards God and was quite literaly "silenced" by demons.

She was calm, still, and aware as this happpened, and very much awake.

She is one of many.

Think about it.

One of Millions Sith ?

Could you supply us with credible documents ?

Originally posted by sithsaber408
all the time? every time? forever?

Throughout history as people have been possesed by demons, and set free by people of strong faith with the Holy Spirit's power working through them, you really believe that every single case can be attributed to mental illness or hysteria?

Not likely...

Sorry if the truth hurts.

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
One of Millions Sith ?

Could you supply us with credible documents ?

edited.

And if that's all you took from that, then you should just move along.
You are clearly splitting hairs and avoiding the subject of the post:

Supernatural power of demons/the devil and God/Jesus/Holy Spirit/angels.